HELP!!!! Ex gave child away but is still collecting child support

[n***@gmail.com]

I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
Here is the problem:
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each case, so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child, there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.

The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband. When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to see his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.

1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat and
it's a huge pitt-bull.

[DB]

OK, so your story is you married a guy with 2 separate support orders and
you wanted to have 4 more with him.

You're either a crazy Loon or this is a Troll post designed to echo the
thoughts of ignorant people that know nothing about the Mother Support
System.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each case, so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child, there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.
The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband. When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to see his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat and
it's a huge pitt-bull.

[n***@gmail.com]

Post by DB
OK, so your story is you married a guy with 2 separate support orders and
you wanted to have 4 more with him.
You're either a crazy Loon or this is a Troll post designed to echo the
thoughts of ignorant people that know nothing about the Mother Support
System.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each case, so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child, there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.
The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband. When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to see his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat and
it's a huge pitt-bull.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, we have 3 together. I have one from a prev marriage. So what if he
had child support orders before we met? The point is, one of the kids
doesn't even live with its mother, and the other kid's mom want all
our money. I need HELP. I don't know what to do, but I'm not trying to
spend the rest of our lives dodging a bullet. Someone must know how to
atleast get the order closed on the kid that's about to be adopted.

[Bob W]

Post by DB
OK, so your story is you married a guy with 2 separate support orders and
you wanted to have 4 more with him.
You're either a crazy Loon or this is a Troll post designed to echo the
thoughts of ignorant people that know nothing about the Mother Support
System.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each case, so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child, there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.
The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband. When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to see his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat and
it's a huge pitt-bull.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, we have 3 together. I have one from a prev marriage. So what if he
had child support orders before we met? The point is, one of the kids
doesn't even live with its mother, and the other kid's mom want all
our money. I need HELP. I don't know what to do, but I'm not trying to
spend the rest of our lives dodging a bullet. Someone must know how to
atleast get the order closed on the kid that's about to be adopted.

======

A lot of the answers to your question deals with the timing of any changes
and the amounts involved.

Since there is an arrears you need to get a determination of how much is
owed to the mother and how much is owed to the state. Even though the child
no longer lives with the mother the CS order has continued to accrue
arrears. With the child in foster care that portion of the order accrues to
the state. When the child went into foster care the mother may have had to
sign over all or part of her CS rights to the state. The bottom line is the
arrearages owed will not go away but once the child is adopted the CS order
can be stopped from accruing further amounts due.

On the other order, it must include payment of uninsured medical expenses.
The amount you were asked to pay might be half, or a pro-rata percentage, of
the uninsured amount.

And finally, the courts could care less about the fact you have subsequent
children together. The CS orders for previous children take priority for
the available dollars.

[n***@gmail.com]

Post by n***@gmail.com

Post by DB
OK, so your story is you married a guy with 2 separate support orders and
you wanted to have 4 more with him.
You're either a crazy Loon or this is a Troll post designed to echo the
thoughts of ignorant people that know nothing about the Mother Support
System.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each case, so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child, there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.
The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband. When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to see his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat and
it's a huge pitt-bull.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, we have 3 together. I have one from a prev marriage. So what if he
had child support orders before we met? The point is, one of the kids
doesn't even live with its mother, and the other kid's mom want all
our money. I need HELP. I don't know what to do, but I'm not trying to
spend the rest of our lives dodging a bullet. Someone must know how to
atleast get the order closed on the kid that's about to be adopted.
======
A lot of the answers to your question deals with the timing of any changes
and the amounts involved.
Since there is an arrears you need to get a determination of how much is
owed to the mother and how much is owed to the state.  Even though the child
no longer lives with the mother the CS order has continued to accrue
arrears.  With the child in foster care that portion of the order accrues to
the state.  When the child went into foster care the mother may have had to
sign over all or part of her CS rights to the state.  The bottom line is the
arrearages owed will not go away but once the child is adopted the CS order
can be stopped from accruing further amounts due.
On the other order, it must include payment of uninsured medical expenses.
The amount you were asked to pay might be half, or a pro-rata percentage, of
the uninsured amount.
And finally, the courts could care less about the fact you have subsequent
children together.  The CS orders for previous children take priority for
the available dollars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

That's not right. My husband is the only provider for our family. The
ex threatened to sue us at one point, but everything is in my name, so
I don't think she can sue me, or can she?
Why would those two children take priority over my children. I'm the
wife and our kids live with us.

[Bob W]

Post by n***@gmail.com

Post by DB
OK, so your story is you married a guy with 2 separate support orders and
you wanted to have 4 more with him.
You're either a crazy Loon or this is a Troll post designed to echo the
thoughts of ignorant people that know nothing about the Mother Support
System.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each case, so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child, there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.
The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband. When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to see his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat and
it's a huge pitt-bull.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, we have 3 together. I have one from a prev marriage. So what if he
had child support orders before we met? The point is, one of the kids
doesn't even live with its mother, and the other kid's mom want all
our money. I need HELP. I don't know what to do, but I'm not trying to
spend the rest of our lives dodging a bullet. Someone must know how to
atleast get the order closed on the kid that's about to be adopted.
======
A lot of the answers to your question deals with the timing of any changes
and the amounts involved.
Since there is an arrears you need to get a determination of how much is
owed to the mother and how much is owed to the state. Even though the
child
no longer lives with the mother the CS order has continued to accrue
arrears. With the child in foster care that portion of the order accrues
to
the state. When the child went into foster care the mother may have had to
sign over all or part of her CS rights to the state. The bottom line is
the
arrearages owed will not go away but once the child is adopted the CS order
can be stopped from accruing further amounts due.
On the other order, it must include payment of uninsured medical expenses.
The amount you were asked to pay might be half, or a pro-rata percentage, of
the uninsured amount.
And finally, the courts could care less about the fact you have subsequent
children together. The CS orders for previous children take priority for
the available dollars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

That's not right. My husband is the only provider for our family. The
ex threatened to sue us at one point, but everything is in my name, so
I don't think she can sue me, or can she?
Why would those two children take priority over my children. I'm the
wife and our kids live with us.

======

CS orders are calculated without consideration of subsequent children with a
current spouse. The only time they consider other children is when a second
CS order is created. In that case they deduct the amount of the first order
from your husband's income before calculating the second order amount since
he can't pay it out twice. Since your husband has two CS orders it is
likely those orders take over 50% of his disposable income.

Welcome to the realities of CS rules and administration. As stated
previously, the courts could care less about your children and/or your
household. Of course, that approach makes the state's objective of making
child support "for the children" just a bunch of BS.

[n***@gmail.com]

Post by n***@gmail.com

Post by n***@gmail.com

Post by DB
OK, so your story is you married a guy with 2 separate support orders and
you wanted to have 4 more with him.
You're either a crazy Loon or this is a Troll post designed to echo the
thoughts of ignorant people that know nothing about the Mother Support
System.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each case, so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child, there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.
The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband. When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to see his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat and
it's a huge pitt-bull.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, we have 3 together. I have one from a prev marriage. So what if he
had child support orders before we met? The point is, one of the kids
doesn't even live with its mother, and the other kid's mom want all
our money. I need HELP. I don't know what to do, but I'm not trying to
spend the rest of our lives dodging a bullet. Someone must know how to
atleast get the order closed on the kid that's about to be adopted.
======
A lot of the answers to your question deals with the timing of any changes
and the amounts involved.
Since there is an arrears you need to get a determination of how much is
owed to the mother and how much is owed to the state. Even though the
child
no longer lives with the mother the CS order has continued to accrue
arrears. With the child in foster care that portion of the order accrues
to
the state. When the child went into foster care the mother may have had to
sign over all or part of her CS rights to the state. The bottom line is
the
arrearages owed will not go away but once the child is adopted the CS order
can be stopped from accruing further amounts due.
On the other order, it must include payment of uninsured medical expenses.
The amount you were asked to pay might be half, or a pro-rata percentage, of
the uninsured amount.
And finally, the courts could care less about the fact you have subsequent
children together. The CS orders for previous children take priority for
the available dollars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

That's not right. My husband is the only provider for our family. The
ex threatened to sue us at one point, but everything is in my name, so
I don't think she can sue me, or can she?
Why would those two children take priority over my children. I'm the
wife and our kids live with us.
======
CS orders are calculated without consideration of subsequent children with a
current spouse.  The only time they consider other children is when a second
CS order is created.  In that case they deduct the amount of the first order
from your husband's income before calculating the second order amount since
he can't pay it out twice.  Since your husband has two CS orders it is
likely those orders take over 50% of his disposable income.
Welcome to the realities of CS rules and administration.  As stated
previously, the courts could care less about your children and/or your
household.  Of course, that approach makes the state's objective of making
child support "for the children" just a bunch of BS.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

So what do we do? Do we continue to live below the radar? They can't
not take his wages, he works under the table. They can't arrest him
because they haven't been able to find us to serve him with the
contempt of court date. The only way I'd let that bitch get a dime is
over my dead body! She can't sue us, can she?

[Bob W]

Post by n***@gmail.com

Post by n***@gmail.com

Post by DB
OK, so your story is you married a guy with 2 separate support orders and
you wanted to have 4 more with him.
You're either a crazy Loon or this is a Troll post designed to echo the
thoughts of ignorant people that know nothing about the Mother Support
System.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each case, so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child, there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.
The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband. When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to see his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat and
it's a huge pitt-bull.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, we have 3 together. I have one from a prev marriage. So what if he
had child support orders before we met? The point is, one of the kids
doesn't even live with its mother, and the other kid's mom want all
our money. I need HELP. I don't know what to do, but I'm not trying to
spend the rest of our lives dodging a bullet. Someone must know how to
atleast get the order closed on the kid that's about to be adopted.
======
A lot of the answers to your question deals with the timing of any changes
and the amounts involved.
Since there is an arrears you need to get a determination of how much is
owed to the mother and how much is owed to the state. Even though the
child
no longer lives with the mother the CS order has continued to accrue
arrears. With the child in foster care that portion of the order accrues
to
the state. When the child went into foster care the mother may have had to
sign over all or part of her CS rights to the state. The bottom line is
the
arrearages owed will not go away but once the child is adopted the CS order
can be stopped from accruing further amounts due.
On the other order, it must include payment of uninsured medical expenses.
The amount you were asked to pay might be half, or a pro-rata
percentage,
of
the uninsured amount.
And finally, the courts could care less about the fact you have subsequent
children together. The CS orders for previous children take priority for
the available dollars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

That's not right. My husband is the only provider for our family. The
ex threatened to sue us at one point, but everything is in my name, so
I don't think she can sue me, or can she?
Why would those two children take priority over my children. I'm the
wife and our kids live with us.
======
CS orders are calculated without consideration of subsequent children with a
current spouse. The only time they consider other children is when a
second
CS order is created. In that case they deduct the amount of the first
order
from your husband's income before calculating the second order amount since
he can't pay it out twice. Since your husband has two CS orders it is
likely those orders take over 50% of his disposable income.
Welcome to the realities of CS rules and administration. As stated
previously, the courts could care less about your children and/or your
household. Of course, that approach makes the state's objective of making
child support "for the children" just a bunch of BS.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

So what do we do? Do we continue to live below the radar? They can't
not take his wages, he works under the table. They can't arrest him
because they haven't been able to find us to serve him with the
contempt of court date. The only way I'd let that bitch get a dime is
over my dead body! She can't sue us, can she?

======

She can't sue you. But she can ask her state's CS enforcement to use all of
their punitive tools against your husband.

Although they technically can't go after your husband's income and assets,
they can issue a bench warrant for his arrest and set the release bond
amount at the total amount of the arrearage. That will put you in the
position of letting your husband rot in jail or use your assets to get him
out.

[n***@gmail.com]

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Post by DB
OK, so your story is you married a guy with 2 separate support orders and
you wanted to have 4 more with him.
You're either a crazy Loon or this is a Troll post designed to echo the
thoughts of ignorant people that know nothing about the Mother Support
System.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each case, so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child, there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.
The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband. When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to see his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat and
it's a huge pitt-bull.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, we have 3 together. I have one from a prev marriage. So what if he
had child support orders before we met? The point is, one of the kids
doesn't even live with its mother, and the other kid's mom want all
our money. I need HELP. I don't know what to do, but I'm not trying to
spend the rest of our lives dodging a bullet. Someone must know how to
atleast get the order closed on the kid that's about to be adopted.
======
A lot of the answers to your question deals with the timing of any changes
and the amounts involved.
Since there is an arrears you need to get a determination of how much is
owed to the mother and how much is owed to the state. Even though the
child
no longer lives with the mother the CS order has continued to accrue
arrears. With the child in foster care that portion of the order accrues
to
the state. When the child went into foster care the mother may have had to
sign over all or part of her CS rights to the state. The bottom line is
the
arrearages owed will not go away but once the child is adopted the CS order
can be stopped from accruing further amounts due.
On the other order, it must include payment of uninsured medical expenses.
The amount you were asked to pay might be half, or a pro-rata
percentage,
of
the uninsured amount.
And finally, the courts could care less about the fact you have subsequent
children together. The CS orders for previous children take priority for
the available dollars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

That's not right. My husband is the only provider for our family. The
ex threatened to sue us at one point, but everything is in my name, so
I don't think she can sue me, or can she?
Why would those two children take priority over my children. I'm the
wife and our kids live with us.
======
CS orders are calculated without consideration of subsequent children with a
current spouse. The only time they consider other children is when a
second
CS order is created. In that case they deduct the amount of the first
order
from your husband's income before calculating the second order amount since
he can't pay it out twice. Since your husband has two CS orders it is
likely those orders take over 50% of his disposable income.
Welcome to the realities of CS rules and administration. As stated
previously, the courts could care less about your children and/or your
household. Of course, that approach makes the state's objective of making
child support "for the children" just a bunch of BS.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

So what do we do? Do we continue to live below the radar? They can't
not take his wages, he works under the table. They can't arrest him
because they haven't been able to find us to serve him with the
contempt of court date. The only way I'd let that bitch get a dime is
over my dead body! She can't sue us, can she?
======
She can't sue you.  But she can ask her state's CS enforcement to use all of
their punitive tools against your husband.
Although they technically can't go after your husband's income and assets,
they can issue a bench warrant for his arrest and set the release bond
amount at the total amount of the arrearage.  That will put you in the
position of letting your husband rot in jail or use your assets to get him
out.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Damn it! Well, she has requested contempt because I was able to lie to
the sherrif who tried to serve my husband, so he was never served.
Aparently he has to be served with the court date. We've been able to
avoid the service of the papers since March of 2007. If he can't be
served, how long will they keep trying?

[Bob W]

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Post by DB
OK, so your story is you married a guy with 2 separate support
orders
and
you wanted to have 4 more with him.
You're either a crazy Loon or this is a Troll post designed to echo the
thoughts of ignorant people that know nothing about the Mother Support
System.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each case, so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child, there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.
The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband. When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to see his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat and
it's a huge pitt-bull.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, we have 3 together. I have one from a prev marriage. So what if he
had child support orders before we met? The point is, one of the kids
doesn't even live with its mother, and the other kid's mom want all
our money. I need HELP. I don't know what to do, but I'm not trying to
spend the rest of our lives dodging a bullet. Someone must know how to
atleast get the order closed on the kid that's about to be adopted.
======
A lot of the answers to your question deals with the timing of any changes
and the amounts involved.
Since there is an arrears you need to get a determination of how much is
owed to the mother and how much is owed to the state. Even though the
child
no longer lives with the mother the CS order has continued to accrue
arrears. With the child in foster care that portion of the order accrues
to
the state. When the child went into foster care the mother may have
had
to
sign over all or part of her CS rights to the state. The bottom line is
the
arrearages owed will not go away but once the child is adopted the CS order
can be stopped from accruing further amounts due.
On the other order, it must include payment of uninsured medical expenses.
The amount you were asked to pay might be half, or a pro-rata
percentage,
of
the uninsured amount.
And finally, the courts could care less about the fact you have subsequent
children together. The CS orders for previous children take priority for
the available dollars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

That's not right. My husband is the only provider for our family. The
ex threatened to sue us at one point, but everything is in my name, so
I don't think she can sue me, or can she?
Why would those two children take priority over my children. I'm the
wife and our kids live with us.
======
CS orders are calculated without consideration of subsequent children
with
a
current spouse. The only time they consider other children is when a
second
CS order is created. In that case they deduct the amount of the first
order
from your husband's income before calculating the second order amount since
he can't pay it out twice. Since your husband has two CS orders it is
likely those orders take over 50% of his disposable income.
Welcome to the realities of CS rules and administration. As stated
previously, the courts could care less about your children and/or your
household. Of course, that approach makes the state's objective of making
child support "for the children" just a bunch of BS.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

So what do we do? Do we continue to live below the radar? They can't
not take his wages, he works under the table. They can't arrest him
because they haven't been able to find us to serve him with the
contempt of court date. The only way I'd let that bitch get a dime is
over my dead body! She can't sue us, can she?
======
She can't sue you. But she can ask her state's CS enforcement to use all
of
their punitive tools against your husband.
Although they technically can't go after your husband's income and assets,
they can issue a bench warrant for his arrest and set the release bond
amount at the total amount of the arrearage. That will put you in the
position of letting your husband rot in jail or use your assets to get him
out.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Damn it! Well, she has requested contempt because I was able to lie to
the sherrif who tried to serve my husband, so he was never served.
Aparently he has to be served with the court date. We've been able to
avoid the service of the papers since March of 2007. If he can't be
served, how long will they keep trying?

======

They will keep trying until the CS is paid. The obligation never goes away.

Be careful about dodging contempt hearing service issues. All the DA's need
to do is tell a judge they have made reasonable attempts to provide legal
service. I have seen a judge who was frustrated about finding a CS obligor
set the release bond at double the amount of the arrearage.

[Dusty]

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Post by DB
OK, so your story is you married a guy with 2 separate support
orders
and
you wanted to have 4 more with him.
You're either a crazy Loon or this is a Troll post designed to echo the
thoughts of ignorant people that know nothing about the Mother Support
System.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each case, so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child, there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.
The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband. When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to see his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat and
it's a huge pitt-bull.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, we have 3 together. I have one from a prev marriage. So what if he
had child support orders before we met? The point is, one of the kids
doesn't even live with its mother, and the other kid's mom want all
our money. I need HELP. I don't know what to do, but I'm not trying to
spend the rest of our lives dodging a bullet. Someone must know how to
atleast get the order closed on the kid that's about to be adopted.
======
A lot of the answers to your question deals with the timing of any changes
and the amounts involved.
Since there is an arrears you need to get a determination of how much is
owed to the mother and how much is owed to the state. Even though the
child
no longer lives with the mother the CS order has continued to accrue
arrears. With the child in foster care that portion of the order accrues
to
the state. When the child went into foster care the mother may have
had
to
sign over all or part of her CS rights to the state. The bottom line is
the
arrearages owed will not go away but once the child is adopted the CS order
can be stopped from accruing further amounts due.
On the other order, it must include payment of uninsured medical expenses.
The amount you were asked to pay might be half, or a pro-rata
percentage,
of
the uninsured amount.
And finally, the courts could care less about the fact you have subsequent
children together. The CS orders for previous children take priority for
the available dollars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

That's not right. My husband is the only provider for our family. The
ex threatened to sue us at one point, but everything is in my name, so
I don't think she can sue me, or can she?
Why would those two children take priority over my children. I'm the
wife and our kids live with us.
======
CS orders are calculated without consideration of subsequent children
with
a
current spouse. The only time they consider other children is when a
second
CS order is created. In that case they deduct the amount of the first
order
from your husband's income before calculating the second order amount since
he can't pay it out twice. Since your husband has two CS orders it is
likely those orders take over 50% of his disposable income.
Welcome to the realities of CS rules and administration. As stated
previously, the courts could care less about your children and/or your
household. Of course, that approach makes the state's objective of making
child support "for the children" just a bunch of BS.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

So what do we do? Do we continue to live below the radar? They can't
not take his wages, he works under the table. They can't arrest him
because they haven't been able to find us to serve him with the
contempt of court date. The only way I'd let that bitch get a dime is
over my dead body! She can't sue us, can she?
======
She can't sue you. But she can ask her state's CS enforcement to use all
of
their punitive tools against your husband.
Although they technically can't go after your husband's income and assets,
they can issue a bench warrant for his arrest and set the release bond
amount at the total amount of the arrearage. That will put you in the
position of letting your husband rot in jail or use your assets to get him
out.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Damn it! Well, she has requested contempt because I was able to lie to
the sherrif who tried to serve my husband, so he was never served.
Aparently he has to be served with the court date. We've been able to
avoid the service of the papers since March of 2007. If he can't be
served, how long will they keep trying?
----------------------------------
Ah, yes. Welcome to Our world. :)

You may want to think about moving elsewhere, like France. There is no end
to the amount of hounding, badgering and out-right harassment that will
befall you and your family when there's a pissed-off "family" court judge
and any kind of an arrears to collect.

Not even Death can (or will) stop collections on C$. The state will go
after anything they can to satisfy this debt. And let's not kid ourselves,
that's exactly what it is, a debt. Unfortunately, as with other debts
accrued throughout one's lifetime, this one will never, ever go away no
matter what you do to it - save pay it off. And that is all but a moot
point when you add-in fees, penalties and incredible amounts in interest
that a state can hit you with. With all that stacking up on a monthly and
yearly basis, it adds up very, very fast.

Even a small amount of arrears can often take another lifetime to pay off.
So no matter what, you'll never be debt-free.

My advice, if you can swing it - move to Mexico, or France, or South Africa,
or.. anywhere but the US or England.

[Chris]

--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have
custody of such child.

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Post by DB
OK, so your story is you married a guy with 2 separate support
orders
and
you wanted to have 4 more with him.
You're either a crazy Loon or this is a Troll post designed to echo the
thoughts of ignorant people that know nothing about the Mother Support
System.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each
case,
so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child, there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.
The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband. When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to
see
his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat and
it's a huge pitt-bull.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, we have 3 together. I have one from a prev marriage. So what if he
had child support orders before we met? The point is, one of the kids
doesn't even live with its mother, and the other kid's mom want all
our money. I need HELP. I don't know what to do, but I'm not trying to
spend the rest of our lives dodging a bullet. Someone must know how to
atleast get the order closed on the kid that's about to be adopted.
======
A lot of the answers to your question deals with the timing of any changes
and the amounts involved.
Since there is an arrears you need to get a determination of how much is
owed to the mother and how much is owed to the state. Even though the
child
no longer lives with the mother the CS order has continued to accrue
arrears. With the child in foster care that portion of the order accrues
to
the state. When the child went into foster care the mother may have
had
to
sign over all or part of her CS rights to the state. The bottom line is
the
arrearages owed will not go away but once the child is adopted the CS order
can be stopped from accruing further amounts due.
On the other order, it must include payment of uninsured medical expenses.
The amount you were asked to pay might be half, or a pro-rata
percentage,
of
the uninsured amount.
And finally, the courts could care less about the fact you have subsequent
children together. The CS orders for previous children take priority for
the available dollars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

That's not right. My husband is the only provider for our family. The
ex threatened to sue us at one point, but everything is in my name, so
I don't think she can sue me, or can she?
Why would those two children take priority over my children. I'm the
wife and our kids live with us.
======
CS orders are calculated without consideration of subsequent children
with
a
current spouse. The only time they consider other children is when a
second
CS order is created. In that case they deduct the amount of the first
order
from your husband's income before calculating the second order amount since
he can't pay it out twice. Since your husband has two CS orders it is
likely those orders take over 50% of his disposable income.
Welcome to the realities of CS rules and administration. As stated
previously, the courts could care less about your children and/or your
household. Of course, that approach makes the state's objective of making
child support "for the children" just a bunch of BS.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

So what do we do? Do we continue to live below the radar? They can't
not take his wages, he works under the table. They can't arrest him
because they haven't been able to find us to serve him with the
contempt of court date. The only way I'd let that bitch get a dime is
over my dead body! She can't sue us, can she?
======
She can't sue you. But she can ask her state's CS enforcement to use all
of
their punitive tools against your husband.
Although they technically can't go after your husband's income and assets,
they can issue a bench warrant for his arrest and set the release bond
amount at the total amount of the arrearage. That will put you in the
position of letting your husband rot in jail or use your assets to get him
out.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Damn it! Well, she has requested contempt because I was able to lie to
the sherrif who tried to serve my husband, so he was never served.
Aparently he has to be served with the court date. We've been able to
avoid the service of the papers since March of 2007. If he can't be
served, how long will they keep trying?
----------------------------------
Ah, yes. Welcome to Our world. :)
You may want to think about moving elsewhere, like France. There is no
end to the amount of hounding, badgering and out-right harassment that
will befall you and your family when there's a pissed-off "family" court
judge and any kind of an arrears to collect.
Not even Death can (or will) stop collections on C$. The state will go
after anything they can to satisfy this debt. And let's not kid
ourselves, that's exactly what it is, a debt. Unfortunately, as with
other debts accrued throughout one's lifetime, this one will never, ever
go away no matter what you do to it - save pay it off. And that is all
but a moot point when you add-in fees, penalties and incredible amounts in
interest that a state can hit you with. With all that stacking up on a
monthly and yearly basis, it adds up very, very fast.
Even a small amount of arrears can often take another lifetime to pay off.
So no matter what, you'll never be debt-free.
My advice, if you can swing it - move to Mexico, or France, or South
Africa, or.. anywhere but the US or England.

Indeed! The two nations that are ANTI-father.

[Heywood Jablowmi]

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Post by DB
OK, so your story is you married a guy with 2 separate support orders and
you wanted to have 4 more with him.
You're either a crazy Loon or this is a Troll post designed to echo the
thoughts of ignorant people that know nothing about the Mother Support
System.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two
combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each case, so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child, there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.
The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband. When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to see his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat and
it's a huge pitt-bull.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, we have 3 together. I have one from a prev marriage. So what if he
had child support orders before we met? The point is, one of the kids
doesn't even live with its mother, and the other kid's mom want all
our money. I need HELP. I don't know what to do, but I'm not trying to
spend the rest of our lives dodging a bullet. Someone must know how to
atleast get the order closed on the kid that's about to be adopted.
======
A lot of the answers to your question deals with the timing of any changes
and the amounts involved.
Since there is an arrears you need to get a determination of how much is
owed to the mother and how much is owed to the state. Even though the
child
no longer lives with the mother the CS order has continued to accrue
arrears. With the child in foster care that portion of the order
accrues to
the state. When the child went into foster care the mother may have
had to
sign over all or part of her CS rights to the state. The bottom line
is the
arrearages owed will not go away but once the child is adopted the CS order
can be stopped from accruing further amounts due.
On the other order, it must include payment of uninsured medical expenses.
The amount you were asked to pay might be half, or a pro-rata
percentage, of
the uninsured amount.
And finally, the courts could care less about the fact you have subsequent
children together. The CS orders for previous children take priority
for
the available dollars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's not right. My husband is the only provider for our family. The
ex threatened to sue us at one point, but everything is in my name, so
I don't think she can sue me, or can she?
Why would those two children take priority over my children. I'm the
wife and our kids live with us.

Yes it is right... your husband has a responsibility to the children of
the first marriage. He should
have taken that into consideration before bringing more children into
the world. Her children have
priority because they were around long before you and your kids that
you had with him and the
other children have the luxury of a court order for support.

[t***@gmail.com]

Post by n***@gmail.com

Post by DB
OK, so your story is you married a guy with 2 separate support orders and
you wanted to have 4 more with him.
You're either a crazy Loon or this is a Troll post designed to echo the
thoughts of ignorant people that know nothing about the Mother Support
System.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each case, so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child, there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.
The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband. When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to see his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat and
it's a huge pitt-bull.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, we have 3 together. I have one from a prev marriage. So what if he
had child support orders before we met? The point is, one of the kids
doesn't even live with its mother, and the other kid's mom want all
our money. I need HELP. I don't know what to do, but I'm not trying to
spend the rest of our lives dodging a bullet. Someone must know how to
atleast get the order closed on the kid that's about to be adopted.
======
A lot of the answers to your question deals with the timing of any changes
and the amounts involved.
Since there is an arrears you need to get a determination of how much is
owed to the mother and how much is owed to the state. Even though the
child
no longer lives with the mother the CS order has continued to accrue
arrears. With the child in foster care that portion of the order
accrues to
the state. When the child went into foster care the mother may have
had to
sign over all or part of her CS rights to the state. The bottom line
is the
arrearages owed will not go away but once the child is adopted the CS order
can be stopped from accruing further amounts due.
On the other order, it must include payment of uninsured medical expenses.
The amount you were asked to pay might be half, or a pro-rata percentage, of
the uninsured amount.
And finally, the courts could care less about the fact you have subsequent
children together. The CS orders for previous children take priority
for
the available dollars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's not right. My husband is the only provider for our family. The
ex threatened to sue us at one point, but everything is in my name, so
I don't think she can sue me, or can she?
Why would those two children take priority over my children. I'm the
wife and our kids live with us.

 Yes it is right... .

No it isn't. It may be legal, but it is not moral, to take away
support from the subsequent children.

your husband has a responsibility to the children of
the first marriage

Yes! But he has a responsibility to all his children.

He should
 have taken that into consideration before bringing more children into
the world.

Yes! Just the same as a married couple thinking about another child
take their existing children into consideration. That's up to them.
I guess they would not thank you when you explain to them that their
existing children must be supported at a higher level than any new
child... because that's your belief, right?

Her children have
 priority because they were around long before you and your kids that
you had with him and the
 other children have the luxury of a court order for support.

You are making up rules - assigning priorities - about other people's
children. Those children are the responsibility of their parents, not
you. You should mind your own business.

[n***@gmail.com]

Post by n***@gmail.com

Post by DB
OK, so your story is you married a guy with 2 separate support orders and
you wanted to have 4 more with him.
You're either a crazy Loon or this is a Troll post designed to echo the
thoughts of ignorant people that know nothing about the Mother Support
System.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each case, so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child, there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.
The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband. When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to see his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat and
it's a huge pitt-bull.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, we have 3 together. I have one from a prev marriage. So what if he
had child support orders before we met? The point is, one of the kids
doesn't even live with its mother, and the other kid's mom want all
our money. I need HELP. I don't know what to do, but I'm not trying to
spend the rest of our lives dodging a bullet. Someone must know how to
atleast get the order closed on the kid that's about to be adopted.
======
A lot of the answers to your question deals with the timing of any changes
and the amounts involved.
Since there is an arrears you need to get a determination of how much is
owed to the mother and how much is owed to the state. Even though the
child
no longer lives with the mother the CS order has continued to accrue
arrears. With the child in foster care that portion of the order
accrues to
the state. When the child went into foster care the mother may have
had to
sign over all or part of her CS rights to the state. The bottom line
is the
arrearages owed will not go away but once the child is adopted the CS order
can be stopped from accruing further amounts due.
On the other order, it must include payment of uninsured medical expenses.
The amount you were asked to pay might be half, or a pro-rata percentage, of
the uninsured amount.
And finally, the courts could care less about the fact you have subsequent
children together. The CS orders for previous children take priority
for
the available dollars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's not right. My husband is the only provider for our family. The
ex threatened to sue us at one point, but everything is in my name, so
I don't think she can sue me, or can she?
Why would those two children take priority over my children. I'm the
wife and our kids live with us.

 Yes it is right... your husband has a responsibility to the children of
the first marriage. He should
 have taken that into consideration before bringing more children into
the world. Her children have
 priority because they were around long before you and your kids that
you had with him and the
 other children have the luxury of a court order for support.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Screw you! it's wrong. Why should we have to live like criminals while
one ex looses custody of all her kids and the other is a whack job who
thinks her kid is the best thing since sliced bread? Is it right that
we would be homeless if he paid the child support?
The ex that lost her kids (she was married to my husband when we met)
was collecting welfare in one state for her kids while collescting
child support when it came in from the other state. The the other
works two jobs, yet wants more money from MY husband-and they were
never married. What gives her the right to even want a dollar from
him. She didn't even want to have the kid, my husband had to talk her
out of an abortion, and now she acts like the kid walks on water and
does no wrong. She had the nerve to threaten me with violence if I
continued to hang the phone up on her son whe he called for my
husband! I went right to the courthouse to get a restraining order,
and you know what ghey told me???? The judge told me that I could have
a PEACE order because my husband has a child with her and it is not
harrassment for her son to call. It is not harrassment for her to
threaten me either, because the judge said "You are forcing parental
alienation". What the hell is that.

The whore is crazy! She won't date because she "doesn't want to set a
bad example" her child. She won't answer the phone on the fer
occasions my husband has tried to call her because she said "we have
nothing to talk about. Don't call to talk to me, call to talk to our
child." What kind of crap is that?
So, I should not have a family with my husband because of an ex-wife
and an ex-girlfriend? You're an idiot!

[t***@gmail.com]

Post by n***@gmail.com

Post by n***@gmail.com

Post by DB
OK, so your story is you married a guy with 2 separate support orders and
you wanted to have 4 more with him.
You're either a crazy Loon or this is a Troll post designed to echo the
thoughts of ignorant people that know nothing about the Mother Support
System.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each case, so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child, there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.
The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband. When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to see his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat and
it's a huge pitt-bull.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, we have 3 together. I have one from a prev marriage. So what if he
had child support orders before we met? The point is, one of the kids
doesn't even live with its mother, and the other kid's mom want all
our money. I need HELP. I don't know what to do, but I'm not trying to
spend the rest of our lives dodging a bullet. Someone must know how to
atleast get the order closed on the kid that's about to be adopted.
======
A lot of the answers to your question deals with the timing of any changes
and the amounts involved.
Since there is an arrears you need to get a determination of how much is
owed to the mother and how much is owed to the state. Even though the
child
no longer lives with the mother the CS order has continued to accrue
arrears. With the child in foster care that portion of the order
accrues to
the state. When the child went into foster care the mother may have
had to
sign over all or part of her CS rights to the state. The bottom line
is the
arrearages owed will not go away but once the child is adopted the CS order
can be stopped from accruing further amounts due.
On the other order, it must include payment of uninsured medical expenses.
The amount you were asked to pay might be half, or a pro-rata percentage, of
the uninsured amount.
And finally, the courts could care less about the fact you have subsequent
children together. The CS orders for previous children take priority
for
the available dollars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's not right. My husband is the only provider for our family. The
ex threatened to sue us at one point, but everything is in my name, so
I don't think she can sue me, or can she?
Why would those two children take priority over my children. I'm the
wife and our kids live with us.

 Yes it is right... your husband has a responsibility to the children of
the first marriage. He should
 have taken that into consideration before bringing more children into
the world. Her children have
 priority because they were around long before you and your kids that
you had with him and the
 other children have the luxury of a court order for support.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Screw you! it's wrong. Why should we have to live like criminals while
one ex looses custody of all her kids and the other is a whack job who
thinks her kid is the best thing since sliced bread? Is it right that
we would be homeless if he paid the child support?
The ex that lost her kids (she was married to my husband when we met)
was collecting welfare in one state for her kids while collescting
child support when it came in from the other state. The the other
works two jobs, yet wants more money from MY husband-and they were
never married. What gives her the right to even want a dollar from
him. She didn't even want to have the kid, my husband had to talk her
out of an abortion, and now she acts like the kid walks on water and
does no wrong. She had the nerve to threaten me with violence if I
continued to hang the phone up on her son whe he called for my
husband!

She sounds like an admirable woman.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I went right to the courthouse to get a restraining order,
and you know what ghey told me???? The judge told me that I could have
a PEACE order because my husband has a child with her and it is not
harrassment for her son to call. It is not harrassment for her to
threaten me either, because the judge said "You are forcing parental
alienation". What the hell is that.
The whore is crazy! She won't date because she "doesn't want to set a
bad example" her child. She won't answer the phone on the fer
occasions my husband has tried to call her because she said "we have
nothing to talk about. Don't call to talk to me, call to talk to our
child." What kind of crap is that?
So, I should not have a family with my husband because of an ex-wife
and an ex-girlfriend? You're an idiot!

[n***@gmail.com]

Post by t***@gmail.com

Post by n***@gmail.com

Post by n***@gmail.com

Post by DB
OK, so your story is you married a guy with 2 separate support orders and
you wanted to have 4 more with him.
You're either a crazy Loon or this is a Troll post designed to echo the
thoughts of ignorant people that know nothing about the Mother Support
System.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each case, so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child, there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.
The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband. When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to see his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat and
it's a huge pitt-bull.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, we have 3 together. I have one from a prev marriage. So what if he
had child support orders before we met? The point is, one of the kids
doesn't even live with its mother, and the other kid's mom want all
our money. I need HELP. I don't know what to do, but I'm not trying to
spend the rest of our lives dodging a bullet. Someone must know how to
atleast get the order closed on the kid that's about to be adopted.
======
A lot of the answers to your question deals with the timing of any changes
and the amounts involved.
Since there is an arrears you need to get a determination of how much is
owed to the mother and how much is owed to the state. Even though the
child
no longer lives with the mother the CS order has continued to accrue
arrears. With the child in foster care that portion of the order
accrues to
the state. When the child went into foster care the mother may have
had to
sign over all or part of her CS rights to the state. The bottom line
is the
arrearages owed will not go away but once the child is adopted the CS order
can be stopped from accruing further amounts due.
On the other order, it must include payment of uninsured medical expenses.
The amount you were asked to pay might be half, or a pro-rata percentage, of
the uninsured amount.
And finally, the courts could care less about the fact you have subsequent
children together. The CS orders for previous children take priority
for
the available dollars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's not right. My husband is the only provider for our family. The
ex threatened to sue us at one point, but everything is in my name, so
I don't think she can sue me, or can she?
Why would those two children take priority over my children. I'm the
wife and our kids live with us.

 Yes it is right... your husband has a responsibility to the children of
the first marriage. He should
 have taken that into consideration before bringing more children into
the world. Her children have
 priority because they were around long before you and your kids that
you had with him and the
 other children have the luxury of a court order for support.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Screw you! it's wrong. Why should we have to live like criminals while
one ex looses custody of all her kids and the other is a whack job who
thinks her kid is the best thing since sliced bread? Is it right that
we would be homeless if he paid the child support?
The ex that lost her kids (she was married to my husband when we met)
was collecting welfare in one state for her kids while collescting
child support when it came in from the other state. The the other
works two jobs, yet wants more money from MY husband-and they were
never married. What gives her the right to even want a dollar from
him. She didn't even want to have the kid, my husband had to talk her
out of an abortion, and now she acts like the kid walks on water and
does no wrong. She had the nerve to threaten me with violence if I
continued to hang the phone up on her son whe he called for my
husband!

She sounds like an admirable woman.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I went right to the courthouse to get a restraining order,
and you know what ghey told me???? The judge told me that I could have
a PEACE order because my husband has a child with her and it is not
harrassment for her son to call. It is not harrassment for her to
threaten me either, because the judge said "You are forcing parental
alienation". What the hell is that.
The whore is crazy! She won't date because she "doesn't want to set a
bad example" her child. She won't answer the phone on the fer
occasions my husband has tried to call her because she said "we have
nothing to talk about. Don't call to talk to me, call to talk to our
child." What kind of crap is that?
So, I should not have a family with my husband because of an ex-wife
and an ex-girlfriend? You're an idiot!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

She isn't! If she were, she wouldn't be trying to get money from us!
My husband only makes $650 a week. That doesn't go far after we pay
all our bills. Why can't she quit taking classes and get a 3rd job?!
With the economy the way it is, she shouldn't be wasting her money on
schooling, then wanting child support.
If she were any kind of woman she would take care of her brat on her
own, without wanting child support!

[Dave Briggman]

Lady, as much as I HATE Virginia's DCSE, by the way you sound, if I
knew where your husband was, I'd tell them just so he'd get away from
a woman like you.

[teachrmama]

Post by n***@gmail.com

Post by t***@gmail.com

Post by n***@gmail.com

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Post by DB
OK, so your story is you married a guy with 2 separate support
orders and
you wanted to have 4 more with him.
You're either a crazy Loon or this is a Troll post designed to echo the
thoughts of ignorant people that know nothing about the Mother Support
System.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children
with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of
adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each case,
so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child,
there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its
mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.
The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband. When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she
sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that
whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she
was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids
living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far
greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to see
his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats
him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat and
it's a huge pitt-bull.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, we have 3 together. I have one from a prev marriage. So what if he
had child support orders before we met? The point is, one of the kids
doesn't even live with its mother, and the other kid's mom want all
our money. I need HELP. I don't know what to do, but I'm not trying to
spend the rest of our lives dodging a bullet. Someone must know how to
atleast get the order closed on the kid that's about to be adopted.
======
A lot of the answers to your question deals with the timing of any changes
and the amounts involved.
Since there is an arrears you need to get a determination of how much is
owed to the mother and how much is owed to the state. Even though the
child
no longer lives with the mother the CS order has continued to accrue
arrears. With the child in foster care that portion of the order
accrues to
the state. When the child went into foster care the mother may have
had to
sign over all or part of her CS rights to the state. The bottom line
is the
arrearages owed will not go away but once the child is adopted the CS order
can be stopped from accruing further amounts due.
On the other order, it must include payment of uninsured medical expenses.
The amount you were asked to pay might be half, or a pro-rata
percentage, of
the uninsured amount.
And finally, the courts could care less about the fact you have subsequent
children together. The CS orders for previous children take priority
for
the available dollars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's not right. My husband is the only provider for our family. The
ex threatened to sue us at one point, but everything is in my name, so
I don't think she can sue me, or can she?
Why would those two children take priority over my children. I'm the
wife and our kids live with us.

 Yes it is right... your husband has a responsibility to the children of
the first marriage. He should
 have taken that into consideration before bringing more children into
the world. Her children have
 priority because they were around long before you and your kids that
you had with him and the
 other children have the luxury of a court order for support.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Screw you! it's wrong. Why should we have to live like criminals while
one ex looses custody of all her kids and the other is a whack job who
thinks her kid is the best thing since sliced bread? Is it right that
we would be homeless if he paid the child support?
The ex that lost her kids (she was married to my husband when we met)
was collecting welfare in one state for her kids while collescting
child support when it came in from the other state. The the other
works two jobs, yet wants more money from MY husband-and they were
never married. What gives her the right to even want a dollar from
him. She didn't even want to have the kid, my husband had to talk her
out of an abortion, and now she acts like the kid walks on water and
does no wrong. She had the nerve to threaten me with violence if I
continued to hang the phone up on her son whe he called for my
husband!

She sounds like an admirable woman.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I went right to the courthouse to get a restraining order,
and you know what ghey told me???? The judge told me that I could have
a PEACE order because my husband has a child with her and it is not
harrassment for her son to call. It is not harrassment for her to
threaten me either, because the judge said "You are forcing parental
alienation". What the hell is that.
The whore is crazy! She won't date because she "doesn't want to set a
bad example" her child. She won't answer the phone on the fer
occasions my husband has tried to call her because she said "we have
nothing to talk about. Don't call to talk to me, call to talk to our
child." What kind of crap is that?
So, I should not have a family with my husband because of an ex-wife
and an ex-girlfriend? You're an idiot!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

She isn't! If she were, she wouldn't be trying to get money from us!
My husband only makes $650 a week. That doesn't go far after we pay
all our bills. Why can't she quit taking classes and get a 3rd job?!
With the economy the way it is, she shouldn't be wasting her money on
schooling, then wanting child support.
If she were any kind of woman she would take care of her brat on her
own, without wanting child support!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

I think I recall reading in one of your posts that your husband
supports the family. Does that mean that you do not work? If so, it
might be wise for you to get a job. CS can't touch your wages, in
most places anyway. If she is already working 2 jobs and going to
school, expecting her to work more, while you are not working at all
is rather outrageous. I am not a fan of the CS system, but I do think
things need to be fair, and that includes everyone having at least one
job before expecting someone else to have 2 or 3 jobs.

[n***@gmail.com]

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Post by t***@gmail.com

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Post by DB
OK, so your story is you married a guy with 2 separate support
orders and
you wanted to have 4 more with him.
You're either a crazy Loon or this is a Troll post designed to echo
the
thoughts of ignorant people that know nothing about the Mother
Support
System.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children
with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two
combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of
adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each case,
so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child,
there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its
mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.
The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband.
When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my
husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she
sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that
whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she
was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids
living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far
greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to see
his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has
two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats
him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat
and
it's a huge pitt-bull.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, we have 3 together. I have one from a prev marriage. So what if he
had child support orders before we met? The point is, one of the kids
doesn't even live with its mother, and the other kid's mom want all
our money. I need HELP. I don't know what to do, but I'm not trying to
spend the rest of our lives dodging a bullet. Someone must know how to
atleast get the order closed on the kid that's about to be adopted.
======
A lot of the answers to your question deals with the timing of any
changes
and the amounts involved.
Since there is an arrears you need to get a determination of how much
is
owed to the mother and how much is owed to the state. Even though the
child
no longer lives with the mother the CS order has continued to accrue
arrears. With the child in foster care that portion of the order
accrues to
the state. When the child went into foster care the mother may have
had to
sign over all or part of her CS rights to the state. The bottom line
is the
arrearages owed will not go away but once the child is adopted the CS
order
can be stopped from accruing further amounts due.
On the other order, it must include payment of uninsured medical
expenses.
The amount you were asked to pay might be half, or a pro-rata
percentage, of
the uninsured amount.
And finally, the courts could care less about the fact you have
subsequent
children together. The CS orders for previous children take priority
for
the available dollars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's not right. My husband is the only provider for our family. The
ex threatened to sue us at one point, but everything is in my name, so
I don't think she can sue me, or can she?
Why would those two children take priority over my children. I'm the
wife and our kids live with us.

 Yes it is right... your husband has a responsibility to the children of
the first marriage. He should
 have taken that into consideration before bringing more children into
the world. Her children have
 priority because they were around long before you and your kids that
you had with him and the
 other children have the luxury of a court order for support.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Screw you! it's wrong. Why should we have to live like criminals while
one ex looses custody of all her kids and the other is a whack job who
thinks her kid is the best thing since sliced bread? Is it right that
we would be homeless if he paid the child support?
The ex that lost her kids (she was married to my husband when we met)
was collecting welfare in one state for her kids while collescting
child support when it came in from the other state. The the other
works two jobs, yet wants more money from MY husband-and they were
never married. What gives her the right to even want a dollar from
him. She didn't even want to have the kid, my husband had to talk her
out of an abortion, and now she acts like the kid walks on water and
does no wrong. She had the nerve to threaten me with violence if I
continued to hang the phone up on her son whe he called for my
husband!

She sounds like an admirable woman.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I went right to the courthouse to get a restraining order,
and you know what ghey told me???? The judge told me that I could have
a PEACE order because my husband has a child with her and it is not
harrassment for her son to call. It is not harrassment for her to
threaten me either, because the judge said "You are forcing parental
alienation". What the hell is that.
The whore is crazy! She won't date because she "doesn't want to set a
bad example" her child. She won't answer the phone on the fer
occasions my husband has tried to call her because she said "we have
nothing to talk about. Don't call to talk to me, call to talk to our
child." What kind of crap is that?
So, I should not have a family with my husband because of an ex-wife
and an ex-girlfriend? You're an idiot!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

She isn't! If she were, she wouldn't be trying to get money from us!
My husband only makes $650 a week. That doesn't go far after we pay
all our bills. Why can't she quit taking classes and get a 3rd job?!
With the economy the way it is, she shouldn't be wasting her money on
schooling, then wanting child support.
If she were any kind of woman she would take care of her brat on her
own, without wanting child support!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

I think I recall reading in one of your posts that your husband
supports the family.  Does that mean that you do not work?  If so, it
might be wise for you to get a job.  CS can't touch your wages, in
most places anyway.  If she is already working 2 jobs and going to
school, expecting her to work more, while you are not working at all
is rather outrageous.  I am not a fan of the CS system, but I do think
things need to be fair, and that includes everyone having at least one
job before expecting someone else to have 2 or 3 jobs.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

I have 4 kids to take care of... OK? Why should I have to work when my
husband responsibility is to support me and our children? Why is it my
husbands responsibility to support a child not living with the mother,
and another child by a whore he was never married to? Nobody told the
bitch to go to school, when she could be using the money for the kid
instead of wanting money from us.

[DB]

Post by n***@gmail.com
I have 4 kids to take care of... OK? Why should I have to work when my

husband responsibility is to support me and our children? Why is it my
husbands responsibility to support a child not living with the mother,
and another child by a whore he was never married to? Nobody told the
bitch to go to school, when she could be using the money for the kid
instead of wanting money from us.
-------------------------------------------


SO when your husband leaves you, will his new wife be calling you a whore
and telling you to go work 3 jobs to support your kids?

[n***@gmail.com]

Post by n***@gmail.com

Post by n***@gmail.com
I have 4 kids to take care of... OK? Why should I have to work when my

husband responsibility is to support me and our children? Why is it my
husbands responsibility to support a child not living with the mother,
and another child by a whore he was never married to? Nobody told the
bitch to go to school, when she could be using the money for the kid
instead of wanting money from us.
-------------------------------------------
SO when your husband leaves you, will his new wife be calling you a whore
and telling you to go work 3 jobs to support your kids?

My husband isn't going to leave me, so I don't have to worry about
that. I'm not a whore because I was married to my chidren's fathers,
and I surely wouldn't be spending money on school if I was asking for
money for child support!

[teachrmama]

Post by n***@gmail.com

Post by teachrmama

Post by n***@gmail.com

Post by t***@gmail.com

Post by n***@gmail.com

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Post by DB
OK, so your story is you married a guy with 2 separate support
orders and
you wanted to have 4 more with him.
You're either a crazy Loon or this is a Troll post designed to echo
the
thoughts of ignorant people that know nothing about the Mother
Support
System.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children
with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two
combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of
adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each case,
so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child,
there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its
mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.
The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband.
When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my
husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she
sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that
whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she
was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids
living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far
greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to see
his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has
two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats
him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat
and
it's a huge pitt-bull.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, we have 3 together. I have one from a prev marriage. So what if he
had child support orders before we met? The point is, one of the kids
doesn't even live with its mother, and the other kid's mom want all
our money. I need HELP. I don't know what to do, but I'm not trying to
spend the rest of our lives dodging a bullet. Someone must know how to
atleast get the order closed on the kid that's about to be adopted.
======
A lot of the answers to your question deals with the timing of any
changes
and the amounts involved.
Since there is an arrears you need to get a determination of how much
is
owed to the mother and how much is owed to the state. Even though the
child
no longer lives with the mother the CS order has continued to accrue
arrears. With the child in foster care that portion of the order
accrues to
the state. When the child went into foster care the mother may have
had to
sign over all or part of her CS rights to the state. The bottom line
is the
arrearages owed will not go away but once the child is adopted the CS
order
can be stopped from accruing further amounts due.
On the other order, it must include payment of uninsured medical
expenses.
The amount you were asked to pay might be half, or a pro-rata
percentage, of
the uninsured amount.
And finally, the courts could care less about the fact you have
subsequent
children together. The CS orders for previous children take priority
for
the available dollars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's not right. My husband is the only provider for our family. The
ex threatened to sue us at one point, but everything is in my name, so
I don't think she can sue me, or can she?
Why would those two children take priority over my children. I'm the
wife and our kids live with us.

 Yes it is right... your husband has a responsibility to the children of
the first marriage. He should
 have taken that into consideration before bringing more children into
the world. Her children have
 priority because they were around long before you and your kids that
you had with him and the
 other children have the luxury of a court order for support.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Screw you! it's wrong. Why should we have to live like criminals while
one ex looses custody of all her kids and the other is a whack job who
thinks her kid is the best thing since sliced bread? Is it right that
we would be homeless if he paid the child support?
The ex that lost her kids (she was married to my husband when we met)
was collecting welfare in one state for her kids while collescting
child support when it came in from the other state. The the other
works two jobs, yet wants more money from MY husband-and they were
never married. What gives her the right to even want a dollar from
him. She didn't even want to have the kid, my husband had to talk her
out of an abortion, and now she acts like the kid walks on water and
does no wrong. She had the nerve to threaten me with violence if I
continued to hang the phone up on her son whe he called for my
husband!

She sounds like an admirable woman.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I went right to the courthouse to get a restraining order,
and you know what ghey told me???? The judge told me that I could have
a PEACE order because my husband has a child with her and it is not
harrassment for her son to call. It is not harrassment for her to
threaten me either, because the judge said "You are forcing parental
alienation". What the hell is that.
The whore is crazy! She won't date because she "doesn't want to set a
bad example" her child. She won't answer the phone on the fer
occasions my husband has tried to call her because she said "we have
nothing to talk about. Don't call to talk to me, call to talk to our
child." What kind of crap is that?
So, I should not have a family with my husband because of an ex-wife
and an ex-girlfriend? You're an idiot!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

She isn't! If she were, she wouldn't be trying to get money from us!
My husband only makes $650 a week. That doesn't go far after we pay
all our bills. Why can't she quit taking classes and get a 3rd job?!
With the economy the way it is, she shouldn't be wasting her money on
schooling, then wanting child support.
If she were any kind of woman she would take care of her brat on her
own, without wanting child support!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

I think I recall reading in one of your posts that your husband
supports the family.  Does that mean that you do not work?  If so, it
might be wise for you to get a job.  CS can't touch your wages, in
most places anyway.  If she is already working 2 jobs and going to
school, expecting her to work more, while you are not working at all
is rather outrageous.  I am not a fan of the CS system, but I do think
things need to be fair, and that includes everyone having at least one
job before expecting someone else to have 2 or 3 jobs.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

I have 4 kids to take care of... OK? Why should I have to work when my
husband responsibility is to support me and our children? Why is it my
husbands responsibility to support a child not living with the mother,
and another child by a whore he was never married to? Nobody told the
bitch to go to school, when she could be using the money for the kid
instead of wanting money from us.

Are the children too young to attend school? Cany you not work part
time when your husband gets home from work, to save on child care
costs? It would be nice if all of us could decide that one parent
would stay home and be the homemaker, and the other would be the
breadwinner, but it does not work that way very often. And your
husband has a far better chance of getting his child support lowered
if the woman gets a better paying job. Why do you object to that? At
least she's not sitting on her butt, expecting her child's father to
do it all. She seems to be trying to be self supporting. You sound
very angry.

[n***@gmail.com]

Post by n***@gmail.com

Post by teachrmama

Post by n***@gmail.com

Post by t***@gmail.com

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Post by DB
OK, so your story is you married a guy with 2 separate support
orders and
you wanted to have 4 more with him.
You're either a crazy Loon or this is a Troll post designed to echo
the
thoughts of ignorant people that know nothing about the Mother
Support
System.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children
with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two
combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of
adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each case,
so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child,
there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its
mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.
The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband.
When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my
husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she
sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that
whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she
was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids
living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far
greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to see
his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has
two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats
him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat
and
it's a huge pitt-bull.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, we have 3 together. I have one from a prev marriage. So what if he
had child support orders before we met? The point is, one of the kids
doesn't even live with its mother, and the other kid's mom want all
our money. I need HELP. I don't know what to do, but I'm not trying to
spend the rest of our lives dodging a bullet. Someone must know how to
atleast get the order closed on the kid that's about to be adopted.
======
A lot of the answers to your question deals with the timing of any
changes
and the amounts involved.
Since there is an arrears you need to get a determination of how much
is
owed to the mother and how much is owed to the state. Even though the
child
no longer lives with the mother the CS order has continued to accrue
arrears. With the child in foster care that portion of the order
accrues to
the state. When the child went into foster care the mother may have
had to
sign over all or part of her CS rights to the state. The bottom line
is the
arrearages owed will not go away but once the child is adopted the CS
order
can be stopped from accruing further amounts due.
On the other order, it must include payment of uninsured medical
expenses.
The amount you were asked to pay might be half, or a pro-rata
percentage, of
the uninsured amount.
And finally, the courts could care less about the fact you have
subsequent
children together. The CS orders for previous children take priority
for
the available dollars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's not right. My husband is the only provider for our family. The
ex threatened to sue us at one point, but everything is in my name, so
I don't think she can sue me, or can she?
Why would those two children take priority over my children. I'm the
wife and our kids live with us.

 Yes it is right... your husband has a responsibility to the children of
the first marriage. He should
 have taken that into consideration before bringing more children into
the world. Her children have
 priority because they were around long before you and your kids that
you had with him and the
 other children have the luxury of a court order for support.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Screw you! it's wrong. Why should we have to live like criminals while
one ex looses custody of all her kids and the other is a whack job who
thinks her kid is the best thing since sliced bread? Is it right that
we would be homeless if he paid the child support?
The ex that lost her kids (she was married to my husband when we met)
was collecting welfare in one state for her kids while collescting
child support when it came in from the other state. The the other
works two jobs, yet wants more money from MY husband-and they were
never married. What gives her the right to even want a dollar from
him. She didn't even want to have the kid, my husband had to talk her
out of an abortion, and now she acts like the kid walks on water and
does no wrong. She had the nerve to threaten me with violence if I
continued to hang the phone up on her son whe he called for my
husband!

She sounds like an admirable woman.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I went right to the courthouse to get a restraining order,
and you know what ghey told me???? The judge told me that I could have
a PEACE order because my husband has a child with her and it is not
harrassment for her son to call. It is not harrassment for her to
threaten me either, because the judge said "You are forcing parental
alienation". What the hell is that.
The whore is crazy! She won't date because she "doesn't want to set a
bad example" her child. She won't answer the phone on the fer
occasions my husband has tried to call her because she said "we have
nothing to talk about. Don't call to talk to me, call to talk to our
child." What kind of crap is that?
So, I should not have a family with my husband because of an ex-wife
and an ex-girlfriend? You're an idiot!- Hide quoted text -

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She isn't! If she were, she wouldn't be trying to get money from us!
My husband only makes $650 a week. That doesn't go far after we pay
all our bills. Why can't she quit taking classes and get a 3rd job?!
With the economy the way it is, she shouldn't be wasting her money on
schooling, then wanting child support.
If she were any kind of woman she would take care of her brat on her
own, without wanting child support!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

I think I recall reading in one of your posts that your husband
supports the family.  Does that mean that you do not work?  If so, it
might be wise for you to get a job.  CS can't touch your wages, in
most places anyway.  If she is already working 2 jobs and going to
school, expecting her to work more, while you are not working at all
is rather outrageous.  I am not a fan of the CS system, but I do think
things need to be fair, and that includes everyone having at least one
job before expecting someone else to have 2 or 3 jobs.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

I have 4 kids to take care of... OK? Why should I have to work when my
husband responsibility is to support me and our children? Why is it my
husbands responsibility to support a child not living with the mother,
and another child by a whore he was never married to? Nobody told the
bitch to go to school, when she could be using the money for the kid
instead of wanting money from us.

Are the children too young to attend school?  Cany you not work part
time when your husband gets home from work, to save on child care
costs?  It would be nice if all of us could decide that one parent
would stay home and be the homemaker, and the other would be the
breadwinner, but it does not work that way very often.  And your
husband has a far better chance of getting his child support lowered
if the woman gets a better paying job.  Why do you object to that?  At
least she's not sitting on her butt, expecting her child's father to
do it all.  She seems to be trying to be self supporting.  You sound
very angry.

*********************************************************
My children (except my oldest) are not in school yet, and my youngest
wont be in school for another 4 years.
No, I can not work part time. The cost of daycare is outragous for one
kid let alone three of them.
I don't care if the whore is trying to better herself! Why should she
do it at the cost of my husbands, and my money?
I'm not angry. I enjoy living like a criminal because a couple of
whores want free money from MY husband! What do I have to be angry
about?

[teachrmama]

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Post by DB
OK, so your story is you married a guy with 2 separate support
orders and
you wanted to have 4 more with him.
You're either a crazy Loon or this is a Troll post designed to echo
the
thoughts of ignorant people that know nothing about the Mother
Support
System.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children
with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two
combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of
adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each case,
so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child,
there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its
mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.
The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband.
When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my
husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she
sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that
whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she
was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids
living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far
greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to see
his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has
two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats
him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat
and
it's a huge pitt-bull.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, we have 3 together. I have one from a prev marriage. So what if he
had child support orders before we met? The point is, one of the kids
doesn't even live with its mother, and the other kid's mom want all
our money. I need HELP. I don't know what to do, but I'm not trying to
spend the rest of our lives dodging a bullet. Someone must know how to
atleast get the order closed on the kid that's about to be adopted.
======
A lot of the answers to your question deals with the timing of any
changes
and the amounts involved.
Since there is an arrears you need to get a determination of how much
is
owed to the mother and how much is owed to the state. Even though the
child
no longer lives with the mother the CS order has continued to accrue
arrears. With the child in foster care that portion of the order
accrues to
the state. When the child went into foster care the mother may have
had to
sign over all or part of her CS rights to the state. The bottom line
is the
arrearages owed will not go away but once the child is adopted the CS
order
can be stopped from accruing further amounts due.
On the other order, it must include payment of uninsured medical
expenses.
The amount you were asked to pay might be half, or a pro-rata
percentage, of
the uninsured amount.
And finally, the courts could care less about the fact you have
subsequent
children together. The CS orders for previous children take priority
for
the available dollars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's not right. My husband is the only provider for our family. The
ex threatened to sue us at one point, but everything is in my name, so
I don't think she can sue me, or can she?
Why would those two children take priority over my children. I'm the
wife and our kids live with us.

 Yes it is right... your husband has a responsibility to the children of
the first marriage. He should
 have taken that into consideration before bringing more children into
the world. Her children have
 priority because they were around long before you and your kids that
you had with him and the
 other children have the luxury of a court order for support.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Screw you! it's wrong. Why should we have to live like criminals while
one ex looses custody of all her kids and the other is a whack job who
thinks her kid is the best thing since sliced bread? Is it right that
we would be homeless if he paid the child support?
The ex that lost her kids (she was married to my husband when we met)
was collecting welfare in one state for her kids while collescting
child support when it came in from the other state. The the other
works two jobs, yet wants more money from MY husband-and they were
never married. What gives her the right to even want a dollar from
him. She didn't even want to have the kid, my husband had to talk her
out of an abortion, and now she acts like the kid walks on water and
does no wrong. She had the nerve to threaten me with violence if I
continued to hang the phone up on her son whe he called for my
husband!

She sounds like an admirable woman.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I went right to the courthouse to get a restraining order,
and you know what ghey told me???? The judge told me that I could have
a PEACE order because my husband has a child with her and it is not
harrassment for her son to call. It is not harrassment for her to
threaten me either, because the judge said "You are forcing parental
alienation". What the hell is that.
The whore is crazy! She won't date because she "doesn't want to set a
bad example" her child. She won't answer the phone on the fer
occasions my husband has tried to call her because she said "we have
nothing to talk about. Don't call to talk to me, call to talk to our
child." What kind of crap is that?
So, I should not have a family with my husband because of an ex-wife
and an ex-girlfriend? You're an idiot!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

She isn't! If she were, she wouldn't be trying to get money from us!
My husband only makes $650 a week. That doesn't go far after we pay
all our bills. Why can't she quit taking classes and get a 3rd job?!
With the economy the way it is, she shouldn't be wasting her money on
schooling, then wanting child support.
If she were any kind of woman she would take care of her brat on her
own, without wanting child support!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

I think I recall reading in one of your posts that your husband
supports the family.  Does that mean that you do not work?  If so, it
might be wise for you to get a job.  CS can't touch your wages, in
most places anyway.  If she is already working 2 jobs and going to
school, expecting her to work more, while you are not working at all
is rather outrageous.  I am not a fan of the CS system, but I do think
things need to be fair, and that includes everyone having at least one
job before expecting someone else to have 2 or 3 jobs.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

I have 4 kids to take care of... OK? Why should I have to work when my
husband responsibility is to support me and our children? Why is it my
husbands responsibility to support a child not living with the mother,
and another child by a whore he was never married to? Nobody told the
bitch to go to school, when she could be using the money for the kid
instead of wanting money from us.

Are the children too young to attend school?  Cany you not work part
time when your husband gets home from work, to save on child care
costs?  It would be nice if all of us could decide that one parent
would stay home and be the homemaker, and the other would be the
breadwinner, but it does not work that way very often.  And your
husband has a far better chance of getting his child support lowered
if the woman gets a better paying job.  Why do you object to that?  At
least she's not sitting on her butt, expecting her child's father to
do it all.  She seems to be trying to be self supporting.  You sound
very angry.

*********************************************************
My children (except my oldest) are not in school yet, and my youngest
wont be in school for another 4 years.
No, I can not work part time. The cost of daycare is outragous for one
kid let alone three of them.
I don't care if the whore is trying to better herself! Why should she
do it at the cost of my husbands, and my money?
I'm not angry. I enjoy living like a criminal because a couple of
whores want free money from MY husband! What do I have to be angry
about?

Hmmmm.....how long has he been paying child? It sounds like you knew
about it before the first child came along, and yet you had 4
children! I am not a fan of the child support system, but if you
**already knew** about the support, why did you have 4 children? I
don't really see a lot of room for you to be complaining, since you
helped put yourself in this situation.

As for working part time--if you go to work **when your husband gets
home** you will not need to pay for child care. As much as I disagree
with the system and how it is run, **IT IS NOT FAIR FOR YOU TO EXPECT
SOMEONE ELSE TO WORK 3 JOBS, AND YOU NOT WORK EVEN ONE!!!!***

[Dusty]

"Heywood Jablowmi" <***@optonline.net> wrote in message news:49a1b36a$0$5922$***@cv.net..

..nothing worth repeating.


For those that are uninformed, messages from "Heywood Jablowmi" deserve the
following..

TROLL ALERT!!
TROLL ALERT!!
TROLL ALERT!!

There, you've been warned. Now settle down, drink your cocca (or tea) and
ignore anything further from "Heywood Jablowmi".

[Phil]

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Post by n***@gmail.com

Post by DB
OK, so your story is you married a guy with 2 separate support orders and
you wanted to have 4 more with him.
You're either a crazy Loon or this is a Troll post designed to echo the
thoughts of ignorant people that know nothing about the Mother Support
System.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each case, so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child, there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.
The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband. When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to see his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat and
it's a huge pitt-bull.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, we have 3 together. I have one from a prev marriage. So what if he
had child support orders before we met? The point is, one of the kids
doesn't even live with its mother, and the other kid's mom want all
our money. I need HELP. I don't know what to do, but I'm not trying to
spend the rest of our lives dodging a bullet. Someone must know how to
atleast get the order closed on the kid that's about to be adopted.
======
A lot of the answers to your question deals with the timing of any changes
and the amounts involved.
Since there is an arrears you need to get a determination of how much is
owed to the mother and how much is owed to the state. Even though the
child
no longer lives with the mother the CS order has continued to accrue
arrears. With the child in foster care that portion of the order
accrues to
the state. When the child went into foster care the mother may have
had to
sign over all or part of her CS rights to the state. The bottom line
is the
arrearages owed will not go away but once the child is adopted the CS order
can be stopped from accruing further amounts due.
On the other order, it must include payment of uninsured medical expenses.
The amount you were asked to pay might be half, or a pro-rata
percentage, of
the uninsured amount.
And finally, the courts could care less about the fact you have subsequent
children together. The CS orders for previous children take priority
for
the available dollars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's not right. My husband is the only provider for our family. The
ex threatened to sue us at one point, but everything is in my name, so
I don't think she can sue me, or can she?
Why would those two children take priority over my children. I'm the
wife and our kids live with us.

Yes it is right... your husband has a responsibility to the children
of the first marriage. He should
have taken that into consideration before bringing more children into
the world. Her children have
priority because they were around long before you and your kids that
you had with him and the
other children have the luxury of a court order for support.

No, actually he has a responsibility to pay the mother of their
children. He has no responsibility for the children themselves. The only
children he has a legal responsibility toward is those from which the
mother didn't demand he be excluded from the family and that
responsibility is the same as the custodial mother of his other children
which is the barest minimum of care.
Everyone knows that children of divorce are more worthy than children
who have two parents. (/sarcasm)
Phil #3

[[e-mail]]

Post by Phil
No, actually he has a responsibility to pay the mother of their
children. He has no responsibility for the children themselves. The only
children he has a legal responsibility toward is those from which the
mother didn't demand he be excluded from the family and that

Did you read this psychotic's post? Do you immediately jump to defend
the non custodial parents regardless of how wrong they are?

She posted the following:

She hangs up on his son when he tries to contact his father
The custodial parent is encouraging him to talk to his son despite the
fact that she obviously hates him and probably isn't paying support
for him.
The custodial parent is working 2 jobs and going to school, avoiding
dating for her child's sake and seems to be going overboard to instill
a sense of self worth in her son despite the fact that his father is a
lowlife with a psychotic wife.
The kid's mother works 2 jobs and goes to school, the psycho who is
complaining about a debt (one she isn't paying btw) does not work at
all.
This nutjob married and procreated with a guy who already has 2 broken
families, breaks the law every week by working off the books,
purposely dodges the law and his debts.
This is the stereotype of a deadbeat dad.

She is the stereotype of the shrew new wife, "she shouldn't be wasting
her money on schooling", "If she were any kind of woman she would take
care of her brat on her own, without wanting child support!"

So in her psychotic mind, the kid she hangs up on is a brat. The kid
who wants to talk to his dad is the problem. The woman who does
everything she can to provide a good income and a good example for her
son is the bad guy. The woman who encourages her deadbeat ex to have a
relationship with his son (despite the fact that she hates him and he
works off the books to avoid paying his obligations) is the bad guy
while the shrew who hangs up on him is righteous.

Let's hope she is still posting her psychotic nonsense when the IRS
starts poking around.

[Talk-n-Dog]

Post by ***@XXX.COM

Post by Phil
No, actually he has a responsibility to pay the mother of their
children. He has no responsibility for the children themselves. The only
children he has a legal responsibility toward is those from which the
mother didn't demand he be excluded from the family and that

Did you read this psychotic's post? Do you immediately jump to defend
the non custodial parents regardless of how wrong they are?
She hangs up on his son when he tries to contact his father
The custodial parent is encouraging him to talk to his son despite the
fact that she obviously hates him and probably isn't paying support
for him.

Psychological torture is having your kids call and espouse being unhappy
and the courts fix it so you can't do anything to change their situation.

Post by ***@XXX.COM
The custodial parent is working 2 jobs and going to school, avoiding
dating for her child's sake and seems to be going overboard to instill
a sense of self worth in her son despite the fact that his father is a
lowlife with a psychotic wife.

big assumption.....

Post by ***@XXX.COM
The kid's mother works 2 jobs and goes to school, the psycho who is
complaining about a debt (one she isn't paying btw) does not work at
all.

The lady in California having octuplets isn't working, and the
government is willing to pay for her kids and not complain or put her in
jail for non payment of support. Seems like you would want the people
treated equal, right.

Post by ***@XXX.COM
This nutjob married and procreated with a guy who already has 2 broken
families, breaks the law every week by working off the books,
purposely dodges the law and his debts.
This is the stereotype of a deadbeat dad.

No that is somebody that needs government help and while you happily pay
for sextuplets and octuplets from the same woman using invetro, this man
is only getting jeers from you. That looks like sexism.


Tell us you're not a man hating lesbian....

Post by ***@XXX.COM
She is the stereotype of the shrew new wife, "she shouldn't be wasting
her money on schooling", "If she were any kind of woman she would take
care of her brat on her own, without wanting child support!"

Maybe the new shrew wife with the new children should divorce him and
file to get child support. Then the Total support could be fought over
and she could have equal rights for her children.

In fact if she is out there I suggest divorce as a solution to her
problem and be sure to file for as much support as possible and he
should accept what ever it is so that when they confiscate his paychecks
and pay it out to the ex-wives his new kids will get a higher percentage.

If nothing else it will screw the other bitchy wives out of as much as
possible since he can sweep floors and stay drunk and let the government
take the paycheck and he can still live with his present newest ex-wife.

It's a lose/lose situation for all, the only way out is the lottery and
I think that would be worse if he wins, they'll all come back nastier.

Post by ***@XXX.COM
So in her psychotic mind, the kid she hangs up on is a brat. The kid
who wants to talk to his dad is the problem. The woman who does
everything she can to provide a good income and a good example for her
son is the bad guy. The woman who encourages her deadbeat ex to have a

The courts already decided who was to raise the kid, the courts deem a
father is useless except for the cash he can provide. The custodial
parent gets the final decision where the child is concerned. That's
almost always the Mother. So the father has no rights and is
financially hobbled by the courts.

Now that she is working and "he" is not, did the courts reverse things
and force the "good mom" woman to pay more child support and the father
less, and maybe send some spousal support to this poor guy? Or does he
have to come up with $3,000 to pay a lawyer to drop the child support to
where it's more equal?

WHY DID THE "GOOD MOM" MARRY THIS GUY.

Post by ***@XXX.COM
relationship with his son (despite the fact that she hates him and he
works off the books to avoid paying his obligations) is the bad guy
while the shrew who hangs up on him is righteous.

Marriage and children in the current environment is insane, why would
you expect these people to be sane?

Post by ***@XXX.COM
Let's hope she is still posting her psychotic nonsense when the IRS
starts poking around.

Put him in JAIL, that will solve everyones problems, including the kid
that will be able to call his dad in jail. That will make the Kid love
mommy.


People want to talk, talk, talk, before going to war and using a gun,
and yet they can't wait to have the government stick a gun in someones
face to solve a problem at home.

[[e-mail]]

Post by Talk-n-Dog

Post by ***@XXX.COM
She hangs up on his son when he tries to contact his father
The custodial parent is encouraging him to talk to his son despite the
fact that she obviously hates him and probably isn't paying support
for him.

Psychological torture is having your kids call and espouse being unhappy
and the courts fix it so you can't do anything to change their situation.

She takes it upon herself to hang up on the son, are you blinded by
your agenda? How did you make a jump to torture and the kid calling to
say he is unhappy?

Post by Talk-n-Dog

Post by ***@XXX.COM
The custodial parent is working 2 jobs and going to school, avoiding
dating for her child's sake and seems to be going overboard to instill
a sense of self worth in her son despite the fact that his father is a
lowlife with a psychotic wife.

big assumption.....

If you read the nutjob's post you will see that it is not much of an
assumption at all. (You probably won't but someone who isn't
desperately and blindly trying to protect an agenda would)

Post by Talk-n-Dog

Post by ***@XXX.COM
The kid's mother works 2 jobs and goes to school, the psycho who is
complaining about a debt (one she isn't paying btw) does not work at
all.

The lady in California having octuplets isn't working, and the
government is willing to pay for her kids and not complain or put her in
jail for non payment of support.  Seems like you would want the people
treated equal, right.

She is on welfare, what does this stupid example have to do with this
thread? The octuplet mom has refused to disclose the name of the
father so I don't see how this is related in anyway.

Post by Talk-n-Dog

Post by ***@XXX.COM
This nutjob married and procreated with a guy who already has 2 broken
families, breaks the law every week by working off the books,
purposely dodges the law and his debts.
This is the stereotype of a deadbeat dad.

No that is somebody that needs government help and while you happily pay
for sextuplets and octuplets from the same woman using invetro, this man
is only getting jeers from you.  That looks like sexism.

So if they qualify for welfare, they can apply for welfare. Again,
there is no correlation between this deadbeat dad and shrew and the
octuplet mom.

Post by Talk-n-Dog
Tell us you're not a man hating lesbian....

Okay, I'm not a man hating lesbian. Now you tell me that you aren't a
lowlife deadbeat whose main concern is avoiding his debts.

Post by Talk-n-Dog

Post by ***@XXX.COM
She is the stereotype of the shrew new wife, "she shouldn't be wasting
her money on schooling", "If she were any kind of woman she would take
care of her brat on her own, without wanting child support!"

Maybe the new shrew wife with the new children should divorce him and
file to get child support.  Then the Total support could be fought over
and she could have equal rights for her children.

She probably should, but she'd just have 3 kids and a deadbeat ex who
works off the books to avoid paying child support. Just like his ex
who works 2 jobs.

Post by Talk-n-Dog
In fact if she is out there I suggest divorce as a solution to her
problem and be sure to file for as much support as possible and he
should accept what ever it is so that when they confiscate his paychecks
and pay it out to the ex-wives his new kids will get a higher percentage.

He doesn't get paychecks stupid, read her rant, he works off the books
to avoid paying anything.

Post by Talk-n-Dog
If nothing else it will screw the other bitchy wives out of as much as
possible since he can sweep floors and stay drunk and let the government
take the paycheck and he can still live with his present newest ex-wife.
It's a lose/lose situation for all, the only way out is the lottery and
I think that would be worse if he wins, they'll all come back nastier.

Post by ***@XXX.COM
So in her psychotic mind, the kid she hangs up on is a brat. The kid
who wants to talk to his dad is the problem. The woman who does
everything she can to provide a good income and a good example for her
son is the bad guy. The woman who encourages her deadbeat ex to have a

The courts already decided who was to raise the kid,

If this is the case, thank god for the courts. Although you don't know
this to be the case you say it because it is part of your agenda.

A guy with a new wife who hangs up on the kid, a dad who needs to be
forced to talk to his own kid, a new wife who doesn't have a job and
swears that 'she' won't give the kid a dime, a dad who works off the
books to avoid his obligations compared to a woman who works 2 jobs
and goes to school, does what she can to get the father to talk to his
kid etc. I can't imagine a more cut and dry case for custody.

Post by Talk-n-Dog
the courts deem a
father is useless except for the cash he can provide. The custodial
parent gets the final decision where the child is concerned. That's
almost always the Mother.  So the father has no rights and is
financially hobbled by the courts.

The mother tries to get the father to talk to his kid, the shrew hangs
up on him when he calls and the father tries to talk to his ex rather
than his kid. Do the courts force the mother to try so hard in
addition to working 2 jobs and going to school? Did the court decide
that this psychotic shrew should hang up on the son when he tries to
talk to his dad? Are you afraid to admit anything contrary to your
agenda, no matter how obvious it is?

Post by Talk-n-Dog
Now that she is working and "he" is not, did the courts reverse things
and force the "good mom" woman to pay more child support and the father
less, and maybe send some spousal support to this poor guy? Or does he
have to come up with $3,000 to pay a lawyer to drop the child support to
where it's more equal?

He is working, except he is working off the books so he can continue
to be a deadbeat. Did you even read the post you are commenting on?

Post by Talk-n-Dog
WHY DID THE "GOOD MOM" MARRY THIS GUY.

She didn't. According to the poster the ex wouldn't marry him, didn't
want his kid and now refuses to talk to him. Sounds like she knows
better.

Post by Talk-n-Dog

Post by ***@XXX.COM
relationship with his son (despite the fact that she hates him and he
works off the books to avoid paying his obligations) is the bad guy
while the shrew who hangs up on him is righteous.

Marriage and children in the current environment is insane, why would
you expect these people to be sane?

The ex seems perfectly sane, she works 2 jobs, goes to school, does
her best to foster a relationship between her son and his dad all the
while he is working off the books to avoid paying his debt. The insane
idiots are the ones who are breaking the law to avoid paying child
support and actively trying to keep the kid away from his father.

Post by Talk-n-Dog

Post by ***@XXX.COM
Let's hope she is still posting her psychotic nonsense when the IRS
starts poking around.

Put him in JAIL, that will solve everyones problems, including the kid
that will be able to call his dad in jail.  That will make the Kid love
mommy.

Do you even know what you are talking about?

Post by Talk-n-Dog
People want to talk, talk, talk, before going to war and using a gun,
and yet they can't wait to have the government stick a gun in someones
face to solve a problem at home.- Hide quoted text -

You answered my question, you have no idea what you are talking about,
you are just programmed to stick to some odd agenda regardless of the
situation.

[DB]

Interesting, this whole story plays right in to your agenda!



"***@XXX.COM" <***@aol.com> wrote in


Okay, I'm not a man hating lesbian. Now you tell me that you aren't a
lowlife deadbeat whose main concern is avoiding his debts.

Post by Talk-n-Dog

Post by ***@XXX.COM
She is the stereotype of the shrew new wife, "she shouldn't be wasting
her money on schooling", "If she were any kind of woman she would take
care of her brat on her own, without wanting child support!"

Maybe the new shrew wife with the new children should divorce him and
file to get child support. Then the Total support could be fought over
and she could have equal rights for her children.

She probably should, but she'd just have 3 kids and a deadbeat ex who
works off the books to avoid paying child support. Just like his ex
who works 2 jobs.

Post by Talk-n-Dog
In fact if she is out there I suggest divorce as a solution to her
problem and be sure to file for as much support as possible and he
should accept what ever it is so that when they confiscate his paychecks
and pay it out to the ex-wives his new kids will get a higher percentage.

He doesn't get paychecks stupid, read her rant, he works off the books
to avoid paying anything.

Post by Talk-n-Dog
If nothing else it will screw the other bitchy wives out of as much as
possible since he can sweep floors and stay drunk and let the government
take the paycheck and he can still live with his present newest ex-wife.
It's a lose/lose situation for all, the only way out is the lottery and
I think that would be worse if he wins, they'll all come back nastier.

Post by ***@XXX.COM
So in her psychotic mind, the kid she hangs up on is a brat. The kid
who wants to talk to his dad is the problem. The woman who does
everything she can to provide a good income and a good example for her
son is the bad guy. The woman who encourages her deadbeat ex to have a

The courts already decided who was to raise the kid,

If this is the case, thank god for the courts. Although you don't know
this to be the case you say it because it is part of your agenda.

A guy with a new wife who hangs up on the kid, a dad who needs to be
forced to talk to his own kid, a new wife who doesn't have a job and
swears that 'she' won't give the kid a dime, a dad who works off the
books to avoid his obligations compared to a woman who works 2 jobs
and goes to school, does what she can to get the father to talk to his
kid etc. I can't imagine a more cut and dry case for custody.

Post by Talk-n-Dog
the courts deem a
father is useless except for the cash he can provide. The custodial
parent gets the final decision where the child is concerned. That's
almost always the Mother. So the father has no rights and is
financially hobbled by the courts.

The mother tries to get the father to talk to his kid, the shrew hangs
up on him when he calls and the father tries to talk to his ex rather
than his kid. Do the courts force the mother to try so hard in
addition to working 2 jobs and going to school? Did the court decide
that this psychotic shrew should hang up on the son when he tries to
talk to his dad? Are you afraid to admit anything contrary to your
agenda, no matter how obvious it is?

Post by Talk-n-Dog
Now that she is working and "he" is not, did the courts reverse things
and force the "good mom" woman to pay more child support and the father
less, and maybe send some spousal support to this poor guy? Or does he
have to come up with $3,000 to pay a lawyer to drop the child support to
where it's more equal?

He is working, except he is working off the books so he can continue
to be a deadbeat. Did you even read the post you are commenting on?

Post by Talk-n-Dog
WHY DID THE "GOOD MOM" MARRY THIS GUY.

She didn't. According to the poster the ex wouldn't marry him, didn't
want his kid and now refuses to talk to him. Sounds like she knows
better.

Post by Talk-n-Dog

Post by ***@XXX.COM
relationship with his son (despite the fact that she hates him and he
works off the books to avoid paying his obligations) is the bad guy
while the shrew who hangs up on him is righteous.

Marriage and children in the current environment is insane, why would
you expect these people to be sane?

The ex seems perfectly sane, she works 2 jobs, goes to school, does
her best to foster a relationship between her son and his dad all the
while he is working off the books to avoid paying his debt. The insane
idiots are the ones who are breaking the law to avoid paying child
support and actively trying to keep the kid away from his father.

Post by Talk-n-Dog

Post by ***@XXX.COM
Let's hope she is still posting her psychotic nonsense when the IRS
starts poking around.

Put him in JAIL, that will solve everyones problems, including the kid
that will be able to call his dad in jail. That will make the Kid love
mommy.

Do you even know what you are talking about?

Post by Talk-n-Dog
People want to talk, talk, talk, before going to war and using a gun,
and yet they can't wait to have the government stick a gun in someones
face to solve a problem at home.- Hide quoted text -

You answered my question, you have no idea what you are talking about,
you are just programmed to stick to some odd agenda regardless of the
situation.

[Chris]

--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have
custody of such child.

Post by Talk-n-Dog

Post by ***@XXX.COM
She hangs up on his son when he tries to contact his father
The custodial parent is encouraging him to talk to his son despite the
fact that she obviously hates him and probably isn't paying support
for him.

Psychological torture is having your kids call and espouse being unhappy
and the courts fix it so you can't do anything to change their situation.

She takes it upon herself to hang up on the son, are you blinded by
your agenda? How did you make a jump to torture and the kid calling to
say he is unhappy?

Post by Talk-n-Dog

Post by ***@XXX.COM
The custodial parent is working 2 jobs and going to school, avoiding
dating for her child's sake and seems to be going overboard to instill
a sense of self worth in her son despite the fact that his father is a
lowlife with a psychotic wife.

big assumption.....

If you read the nutjob's post you will see that it is not much of an
assumption at all. (You probably won't but someone who isn't
desperately and blindly trying to protect an agenda would)

Post by Talk-n-Dog

Post by ***@XXX.COM
The kid's mother works 2 jobs and goes to school, the psycho who is
complaining about a debt (one she isn't paying btw) does not work at
all.

The lady in California having octuplets isn't working, and the
government is willing to pay for her kids and not complain or put her in
jail for non payment of support. Seems like you would want the people
treated equal, right.

She is on welfare, what does this stupid example have to do with this
thread? The octuplet mom has refused to disclose the name of the
father so I don't see how this is related in anyway.

Post by Talk-n-Dog

Post by ***@XXX.COM
This nutjob married and procreated with a guy who already has 2 broken
families, breaks the law every week by working off the books,
purposely dodges the law and his debts.
This is the stereotype of a deadbeat dad.

No that is somebody that needs government help and while you happily pay
for sextuplets and octuplets from the same woman using invetro, this man
is only getting jeers from you. That looks like sexism.

So if they qualify for welfare, they can apply for welfare. Again,
there is no correlation between this deadbeat dad and shrew and the
octuplet mom.

Post by Talk-n-Dog
Tell us you're not a man hating lesbian....

Okay, I'm not a man hating lesbian. Now you tell me that you aren't a
lowlife deadbeat whose main concern is avoiding his debts.

Post by Talk-n-Dog

Post by ***@XXX.COM
She is the stereotype of the shrew new wife, "she shouldn't be wasting
her money on schooling", "If she were any kind of woman she would take
care of her brat on her own, without wanting child support!"

Maybe the new shrew wife with the new children should divorce him and
file to get child support. Then the Total support could be fought over
and she could have equal rights for her children.

She probably should, but she'd just have 3 kids and a deadbeat ex who
works off the books to avoid paying child support. Just like his ex
who works 2 jobs.

*****************

They force as many men as possible to pay "child support" because they can.
Men hide as much of their income as possible to protect it from extortion by
the "child support" people because THEY can. Ya got a problem with that?

***************

Post by Talk-n-Dog
In fact if she is out there I suggest divorce as a solution to her
problem and be sure to file for as much support as possible and he
should accept what ever it is so that when they confiscate his paychecks
and pay it out to the ex-wives his new kids will get a higher percentage.

He doesn't get paychecks stupid, read her rant, he works off the books
to avoid paying anything.

Post by Talk-n-Dog
If nothing else it will screw the other bitchy wives out of as much as
possible since he can sweep floors and stay drunk and let the government
take the paycheck and he can still live with his present newest ex-wife.
It's a lose/lose situation for all, the only way out is the lottery and
I think that would be worse if he wins, they'll all come back nastier.

Post by ***@XXX.COM
So in her psychotic mind, the kid she hangs up on is a brat. The kid
who wants to talk to his dad is the problem. The woman who does
everything she can to provide a good income and a good example for her
son is the bad guy. The woman who encourages her deadbeat ex to have a

The courts already decided who was to raise the kid,

If this is the case, thank god for the courts. Although you don't know
this to be the case you say it because it is part of your agenda.

A guy with a new wife who hangs up on the kid, a dad who needs to be
forced to talk to his own kid, a new wife who doesn't have a job and
swears that 'she' won't give the kid a dime, a dad who works off the
books to avoid his obligations compared to a woman who works 2 jobs
and goes to school, does what she can to get the father to talk to his
kid etc. I can't imagine a more cut and dry case for custody.

***************

How about the simple fact that the mother made the SOLE choice to bear her
child, thus she should have custody of her own child?

*************

Post by Talk-n-Dog
the courts deem a
father is useless except for the cash he can provide. The custodial
parent gets the final decision where the child is concerned. That's
almost always the Mother. So the father has no rights and is
financially hobbled by the courts.

The mother tries to get the father to talk to his kid, the shrew hangs
up on him when he calls and the father tries to talk to his ex rather
than his kid. Do the courts force the mother to try so hard in
addition to working 2 jobs and going to school? Did the court decide
that this psychotic shrew should hang up on the son when he tries to
talk to his dad? Are you afraid to admit anything contrary to your
agenda, no matter how obvious it is?

Post by Talk-n-Dog
Now that she is working and "he" is not, did the courts reverse things
and force the "good mom" woman to pay more child support and the father
less, and maybe send some spousal support to this poor guy? Or does he
have to come up with $3,000 to pay a lawyer to drop the child support to
where it's more equal?

He is working, except he is working off the books so he can continue
to be a deadbeat. Did you even read the post you are commenting on?

***************

You might want to review the concept of "deadbeat".

**************

Post by Talk-n-Dog
WHY DID THE "GOOD MOM" MARRY THIS GUY.

She didn't. According to the poster the ex wouldn't marry him, didn't
want his kid and now refuses to talk to him. Sounds like she knows
better.

Post by Talk-n-Dog

Post by ***@XXX.COM
relationship with his son (despite the fact that she hates him and he
works off the books to avoid paying his obligations) is the bad guy
while the shrew who hangs up on him is righteous.

Marriage and children in the current environment is insane, why would
you expect these people to be sane?

The ex seems perfectly sane, she works 2 jobs, goes to school, does
her best to foster a relationship between her son and his dad all the
while he is working off the books to avoid paying his debt. The insane
idiots are the ones who are breaking the law to avoid paying child
support and actively trying to keep the kid away from his father.

Post by Talk-n-Dog

Post by ***@XXX.COM
Let's hope she is still posting her psychotic nonsense when the IRS
starts poking around.

Put him in JAIL, that will solve everyones problems, including the kid
that will be able to call his dad in jail. That will make the Kid love
mommy.

Do you even know what you are talking about?

Post by Talk-n-Dog
People want to talk, talk, talk, before going to war and using a gun,
and yet they can't wait to have the government stick a gun in someones
face to solve a problem at home.- Hide quoted text -

You answered my question, you have no idea what you are talking about,
you are just programmed to stick to some odd agenda regardless of the
situation.

[[e-mail]]

                ***************
How about the simple fact that the mother made the SOLE choice to bear her
child, thus she should have custody of her own child?
                   *************

Thanks for weighing in to show us that you are a fucking liar too.
According to the original poster, the mother with 2 jobs wanted to
abort and was convinced not to do so by the deadbeat.

                  ***************
You might want to review the concept of "deadbeat".
                         **************

Guy who doesn't pay child support and works illegally to avoid paying
it covers it pretty nicely.

[Chris]

--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have
custody of such child.

Post by Chris
***************
How about the simple fact that the mother made the SOLE choice to bear her
child, thus she should have custody of her own child?
*************

Thanks for weighing in to show us that you are a fucking liar too.
According to the original poster, the mother with 2 jobs wanted to
abort and was convinced not to do so by the deadbeat.

***************

Irrelevant. The fact remains that the choice to bear children rested with
her, and her ALONE. If I tell you to jump off a bridge and you do so, guess
what; it was YOUR choice, not mine, that made you jump. What, exactly, makes
me a "fucking liar"?

*************

Post by Chris
***************
You might want to review the concept of "deadbeat".
**************

Guy who doesn't pay child support and works illegally to avoid paying
it covers it pretty nicely.

*************

Guess again. One has to avoid paying a debt THEY created (or voluntarily
accepted) before they are a deadbeat. Perhaps you should consult Webster's.

[[e-mail]]

Post by Chris
--
Guess again. One has to avoid paying a debt THEY created (or voluntarily
accepted) before they are a deadbeat. Perhaps you should consult Webster's.

Guess what, getting a woman pregnant creates debt and responsibility.

[DB]

Post by Chris
--
Guess again. One has to avoid paying a debt THEY created (or voluntarily
accepted) before they are a deadbeat. Perhaps you should consult Webster's.

Guess what, getting a woman pregnant creates debt and responsibility.
----------------------------------

I totally agree, men should be punished for getting a woman pregnant!

[[e-mail]]

Post by ***@XXX.COM
Guess what, getting a woman pregnant creates debt and responsibility.
----------------------------------
I totally agree, men should be punished for getting a woman pregnant!

Do you see how dishonest and stupid you are?

Debt and responsibility are not punishments unless you are a child or
a deadbeat trying to avoid obligations.

[DB]

Post by ***@XXX.COM
Guess what, getting a woman pregnant creates debt and responsibility.
----------------------------------
I totally agree, men should be punished for getting a woman pregnant!

Do you see how dishonest and stupid you are?

Debt and responsibility are not punishments unless you are a child or
a deadbeat trying to avoid obligations.
-----------------------------------------------

You have an obligation and responsibility to pay the national debt, when are
you going to start writing checks to pay your fair share or do you believe
future generations should pay for the benefits you receive now?

Don't start calling other people dead beats until your hands are clean!

[[e-mail]]

Post by ***@XXX.COM

Post by ***@XXX.COM
Guess what, getting a woman pregnant creates debt and responsibility.
----------------------------------
I totally agree, men should be punished for getting a woman pregnant!

Do you see how dishonest and stupid you are?
Debt and responsibility are not punishments unless you are a child or
a deadbeat trying to avoid obligations.
-----------------------------------------------
You have an obligation and responsibility to pay the national debt, when are
you going to start writing checks to pay your fair share or do you believe
future generations should pay for the benefits you receive now?
Don't start calling other people dead beats until your hands are clean!

I paid 400,000 in state and federal taxes last year, I am guessiing
next year's bill will be much higher. Know what I am doing? I am
setting aside extra money so I don't have to scramble when the bill
comes. Again, you must realize how wrong and stupid you are if you are
willing to use this example to make any point regarding a deadbeat who
works off the books to avoid child support.

[Chris]

--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have
custody of such child.

Post by Chris
--
Guess again. One has to avoid paying a debt THEY created (or voluntarily
accepted) before they are a deadbeat. Perhaps you should consult Webster's.

Guess what, getting a woman pregnant creates debt and responsibility.

***************

What debt and responsibility might that be?

[[e-mail]]

Post by Chris
--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have

Post by Chris
--
Guess again. One has to avoid paying a debt THEY created (or voluntarily
accepted) before they are a deadbeat. Perhaps you should consult Webster's.

Guess what, getting a woman pregnant creates debt and responsibility.
               ***************
What debt and responsibility might that be?

Wow, you are as dumb as the quote you start every post with, aren't
you? No wonder you can't figure out how to pay your bills.

[Chris]

--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have
custody of such child.

Post by Chris
--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have

Post by Chris
--
Guess again. One has to avoid paying a debt THEY created (or voluntarily
accepted) before they are a deadbeat. Perhaps you should consult Webster's.

Guess what, getting a woman pregnant creates debt and responsibility.
***************
What debt and responsibility might that be?

Wow, you are as dumb as the quote you start every post with, aren't
you? No wonder you can't figure out how to pay your bills.

*****************

Nice ad hominem. Again, what debt and responsibility might that be?

[[e-mail]]

Post by Chris
--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have

Post by Chris
--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have

Post by Chris
--
Guess again. One has to avoid paying a debt THEY created (or voluntarily
accepted) before they are a deadbeat. Perhaps you should consult Webster's.

Guess what, getting a woman pregnant creates debt and responsibility.
***************
What debt and responsibility might that be?

Wow, you are as dumb as the quote you start every post with, aren't
you? No wonder you can't figure out how to pay your bills.
                *****************
Nice ad hominem. Again, what debt and responsibility might that be?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

I just feel sorry for you. Since you don't really want an answer from
me, go out into the world and ask any parents you see the same
question. If you get the chance, change that stupid quote it makes you
seem like a complete idiot.

[Chris]

--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have
custody of such child.

Post by Chris
--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have

Post by Chris
--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have

Post by Chris
--
Guess again. One has to avoid paying a debt THEY created (or voluntarily
accepted) before they are a deadbeat. Perhaps you should consult Webster's.

Guess what, getting a woman pregnant creates debt and responsibility.
***************
What debt and responsibility might that be?

Wow, you are as dumb as the quote you start every post with, aren't
you? No wonder you can't figure out how to pay your bills.
*****************
Nice ad hominem. Again, what debt and responsibility might that be?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

I just feel sorry for you.

*********

Well thank you.

*********

Since you don't really want an answer from
me,

***********

Untrue. I really DO want an answer from you; please I DO I DO I DO! But not
to worry, if you also don't know the answer, then I won't ask again.

********

go out into the world and ask any parents you see the same
question. If you get the chance, change that stupid quote it makes you
seem like a complete idiot.

************

What quote are you referring to?

[DB]

Post by Chris
********
go out into the world and ask any parents you see the same
question. If you get the chance, change that stupid quote it makes you
seem like a complete idiot.
************
What quote are you referring to?

Chris, you can't argue with a TROLL

People that have real money don't frequent internet forums! LOL

[[e-mail]]

         ********
go out into the world and ask any parents you see the same
question. If you get the chance, change that stupid quote it makes you
seem like a complete idiot.
         ************
What quote are you referring to?

Chris,  you can't argue with a TROLL
People that have real money don't frequent internet forums! LOL

So you are all claiming troll status? is that why you change the
subject after every post you either can't answer or get caught lying
in?

Don't worry, you won't have to read my posts again until you crosspost
another deadbeat gem.

[DB]

Post by Chris
********
go out into the world and ask any parents you see the same
question. If you get the chance, change that stupid quote it makes you
seem like a complete idiot.
************
What quote are you referring to?

Chris, you can't argue with a TROLL
People that have real money don't frequent internet forums! LOL

So you are all claiming troll status? is that why you change the
subject after every post you either can't answer or get caught lying
in?

Don't worry, you won't have to read my posts again until you crosspost
another deadbeat gem.
------------------------------------------

Typical Troll format!

[[e-mail]]

What quote are you referring to?- Hide quoted text -

Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to
have
custody of such child. This one

[Chris]

--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have
custody of such child.

What quote are you referring to?- Hide quoted text -

Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to
have
custody of such child. This one

************

"Stupid quote" and "it makes you seem like a complete idiot" are nothing
more than your opinion. But lasted I checked, this was not alt.opinion. To
address your ignorance on the matter; if a man is good enough to have the
responsibilities, then he's good enough to have the (custody) RIGHTS!

[[e-mail]]

Post by Chris
--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have

What quote are you referring to?- Hide quoted text -

Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have
custody of such child. This one
          ************
"Stupid quote" and "it makes you seem like a complete idiot" are nothing
more than your opinion. But lasted I checked, this was not alt.opinion. To
address your ignorance on the matter; if a man is good enough to have the
responsibilities, then he's good enough to have the (custody) RIGHTS!

ahh so quick with the deadbeat gem. What if the man physically abuses
his kids? Should he get custody or them?

If he shouldn't get custody because he beats the crap out of his kids,
should he be absolved of all responsibility for them?

If your stupid quote had any basis in reality, men could avoid
supporting their kids by abusing them and losing custody.

The fact is a man CAN pay child support and not be good enough to have
custody.

How about a man who deals heroin out of his house and pimps. He would
certainly be able to pay child support with his heroin earnings, do
you think he is good enough to have custody? Should he be absolved of
responsibility because he is a menace to society? Can a guy get out of
child support by making himself a danger to his kids?

Maybe you should look up the word "any"

[Chris]

--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have
custody of such child.

Post by Chris
--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have

What quote are you referring to?- Hide quoted text -

Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have
custody of such child. This one
************
"Stupid quote" and "it makes you seem like a complete idiot" are nothing
more than your opinion. But lasted I checked, this was not alt.opinion. To
address your ignorance on the matter; if a man is good enough to have the
responsibilities, then he's good enough to have the (custody) RIGHTS!

ahh so quick with the deadbeat gem. What if the man physically abuses
his kids? Should he get custody or them?

If he shouldn't get custody because he beats the crap out of his kids,
should he be absolved of all responsibility for them?

If your stupid quote had any basis in reality, men could avoid
supporting their kids by abusing them and losing custody.

The fact is a man CAN pay child support and not be good enough to have
custody.

***********

Didn't say "can"; I said "good enough to". Get it right.

************

How about a man who deals heroin out of his house and pimps. He would
certainly be able to pay child support with his heroin earnings, do
you think he is good enough to have custody? Should he be absolved of
responsibility because he is a menace to society? Can a guy get out of
child support by making himself a danger to his kids?

Maybe you should look up the word "any"

***************

LOVE your twists! I subscribe to the concept of responsibilities=rights. How
about you?

[teachrmama]

Post by ***@XXX.COM

Post by Phil
No, actually he has a responsibility to pay the mother of their
children. He has no responsibility for the children themselves. The only
children he has a legal responsibility toward is those from which the
mother didn't demand he be excluded from the family and that

Did you read this psychotic's post? Do you immediately jump to defend
the non custodial parents regardless of how wrong they are?
She hangs up on his son when he tries to contact his father
The custodial parent is encouraging him to talk to his son despite the
fact that she obviously hates him and probably isn't paying support
for him.
The custodial parent is working 2 jobs and going to school, avoiding
dating for her child's sake and seems to be going overboard to instill
a sense of self worth in her son despite the fact that his father is a
lowlife with a psychotic wife.
The kid's mother works 2 jobs and goes to school, the psycho who is
complaining about a debt (one she isn't paying btw) does not work at
all.
This nutjob married and procreated with a guy who already has 2 broken
families, breaks the law every week by working off the books,
purposely dodges the law and his debts.
This is the stereotype of a deadbeat dad.
She is the stereotype of the shrew new wife, "she shouldn't be wasting
her money on schooling", "If she were any kind of woman she would take
care of her brat on her own, without wanting child support!"
So in her psychotic mind, the kid she hangs up on is a brat. The kid
who wants to talk to his dad is the problem. The woman who does
everything she can to provide a good income and a good example for her
son is the bad guy. The woman who encourages her deadbeat ex to have a
relationship with his son (despite the fact that she hates him and he
works off the books to avoid paying his obligations) is the bad guy
while the shrew who hangs up on him is righteous.
Let's hope she is still posting her psychotic nonsense when the IRS
starts poking around.

I'm not quite sure who is defending her actions. Maybe you could
point out the post.

[Chris]

--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have
custody of such child.

Post by Heywood Jablowmi

Post by n***@gmail.com

Post by DB
OK, so your story is you married a guy with 2 separate support orders and
you wanted to have 4 more with him.
You're either a crazy Loon or this is a Troll post designed to echo the
thoughts of ignorant people that know nothing about the Mother Support
System.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each case, so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child, there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.
The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband. When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to see his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat and
it's a huge pitt-bull.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, we have 3 together. I have one from a prev marriage. So what if he
had child support orders before we met? The point is, one of the kids
doesn't even live with its mother, and the other kid's mom want all
our money. I need HELP. I don't know what to do, but I'm not trying to
spend the rest of our lives dodging a bullet. Someone must know how to
atleast get the order closed on the kid that's about to be adopted.
======
A lot of the answers to your question deals with the timing of any changes
and the amounts involved.
Since there is an arrears you need to get a determination of how much is
owed to the mother and how much is owed to the state. Even though the
child
no longer lives with the mother the CS order has continued to accrue
arrears. With the child in foster care that portion of the order accrues
to
the state. When the child went into foster care the mother may have had
to
sign over all or part of her CS rights to the state. The bottom line is
the
arrearages owed will not go away but once the child is adopted the CS order
can be stopped from accruing further amounts due.
On the other order, it must include payment of uninsured medical expenses.
The amount you were asked to pay might be half, or a pro-rata percentage, of
the uninsured amount.
And finally, the courts could care less about the fact you have subsequent
children together. The CS orders for previous children take priority for
the available dollars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's not right. My husband is the only provider for our family. The
ex threatened to sue us at one point, but everything is in my name, so
I don't think she can sue me, or can she?
Why would those two children take priority over my children. I'm the
wife and our kids live with us.

Yes it is right... your husband has a responsibility to the children of
the first marriage. He should
have taken that into consideration before bringing more children into the
world.

Men don't "bring children into the world". Next....

Post by Heywood Jablowmi
Her children have
priority because they were around long before you and your kids that you
had with him and the
other children have the luxury of a court order for support.

[[e-mail]]

Post by Chris
--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have

Post by Heywood Jablowmi

Post by n***@gmail.com

Post by DB
OK, so your story is you married a guy with 2 separate support orders and
you wanted to have 4 more with him.
You're either a crazy Loon or this is a Troll post designed to echo the
thoughts of ignorant people that know nothing about the Mother Support
System.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each case, so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child, there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.
The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband. When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to see his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat and
it's a huge pitt-bull.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, we have 3 together. I have one from a prev marriage. So what if he
had child support orders before we met? The point is, one of the kids
doesn't even live with its mother, and the other kid's mom want all
our money. I need HELP. I don't know what to do, but I'm not trying to
spend the rest of our lives dodging a bullet. Someone must know how to
atleast get the order closed on the kid that's about to be adopted.
======
A lot of the answers to your question deals with the timing of any changes
and the amounts involved.
Since there is an arrears you need to get a determination of how much is
owed to the mother and how much is owed to the state. Even though the
child
no longer lives with the mother the CS order has continued to accrue
arrears. With the child in foster care that portion of the order accrues
to
the state. When the child went into foster care the mother may have had
to
sign over all or part of her CS rights to the state. The bottom line is
the
arrearages owed will not go away but once the child is adopted the CS order
can be stopped from accruing further amounts due.
On the other order, it must include payment of uninsured medical expenses.
The amount you were asked to pay might be half, or a pro-rata percentage, of
the uninsured amount.
And finally, the courts could care less about the fact you have subsequent
children together. The CS orders for previous children take priority for
the available dollars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's not right. My husband is the only provider for our family. The
ex threatened to sue us at one point, but everything is in my name, so
I don't think she can sue me, or can she?
Why would those two children take priority over my children. I'm the
wife and our kids live with us.

Yes it is right... your husband has a responsibility to the children of
the first marriage. He should
have taken that into consideration before bringing more children into the
world.

Men don't "bring children into the world". Next....

I brought 2 of mine into the world with my own hands. I cleaned them
both off and cut their cords before handing them to their mother. In
addition, I decided when to get my wife pregnant. The first was a
mutual decision which involved no longer using birth control, the
second was a selfish decision I made at dinner after a few drinks.

You can't absolve yourself of your responsibility by acting stupid.

[DB]

Post by ***@XXX.COM
I brought 2 of mine into the world with my own hands. I cleaned them

both off and cut their cords before handing them to their mother. In
addition, I decided when to get my wife pregnant. The first was a
mutual decision which involved no longer using birth control, the
second was a selfish decision I made at dinner after a few drinks.

You can't absolve yourself of your responsibility by acting stupid.


So you paid $450,000 in income tax last year, it will be rich when your wife
dumps you and that payment will seem like a drop in the bucket to support
the 2 kids you decided to bring into the world.

What do you think would be a fair payment to help support your two children,
would $300,000 per month be enough for them to survive on? Would your wife
be kicking in $300,000 too?

[[e-mail]]

Post by ***@XXX.COM

Post by ***@XXX.COM
I brought 2 of mine into the world with my own hands. I cleaned them

both off and cut their cords before handing them to their mother. In
addition, I decided when to get my wife pregnant. The first was a
mutual decision which involved no longer using birth control, the
second was a selfish decision I made at dinner after a few drinks.
You can't absolve yourself of your responsibility by acting stupid.
So you paid $450,000 in income tax last year, it will be rich when your wife
dumps you and that payment will seem like a drop in the bucket to support
the 2 kids you decided to bring into the world.
What do you think would be a fair payment to help support your two children,
would $300,000 per month be enough for them to survive on? Would your wife
be kicking in $300,000 too?

Do you think this stupid rant somehow proves your contention that I
didn't bring my children into the world? Have I struck some nerve in
the dark recesses of your brain where reality used to live? Are you
trying to fight off reality with the 2nd chorus of your 2 chorus "woe
is me" song?

Maybe you should stick to your basic stupid answer about me sending a
check to the IRS. I understand that someone like you (who doesn't even
want to support his own kids) finds it unthinkable that he should pay
for infrastructure, welfare, regular bills, or anything that won't get
him drunk.

And if you want to start a new topic about my kids and how much would
be fair, my answer would be "every cent I have." Unlike you, my wife
and I are making sure thats where every cent is headed anyway.

Rather than worry about paying an extra $10 towards your kids why not
try to do more for them? Rather than complain and blame the government
for bad schools why not get involved and make their schools a little
better? Rather than bitch and moan constantly why not improve
yourself?

[Bob W]

Post by ***@XXX.COM

Post by ***@XXX.COM
I brought 2 of mine into the world with my own hands. I cleaned them

both off and cut their cords before handing them to their mother. In
addition, I decided when to get my wife pregnant. The first was a
mutual decision which involved no longer using birth control, the
second was a selfish decision I made at dinner after a few drinks.
You can't absolve yourself of your responsibility by acting stupid.
So you paid $450,000 in income tax last year, it will be rich when your wife
dumps you and that payment will seem like a drop in the bucket to support
the 2 kids you decided to bring into the world.
What do you think would be a fair payment to help support your two children,
would $300,000 per month be enough for them to survive on? Would your wife
be kicking in $300,000 too?

Do you think this stupid rant somehow proves your contention that I
didn't bring my children into the world? Have I struck some nerve in
the dark recesses of your brain where reality used to live? Are you
trying to fight off reality with the 2nd chorus of your 2 chorus "woe
is me" song?

Maybe you should stick to your basic stupid answer about me sending a
check to the IRS. I understand that someone like you (who doesn't even
want to support his own kids) finds it unthinkable that he should pay
for infrastructure, welfare, regular bills, or anything that won't get
him drunk.

And if you want to start a new topic about my kids and how much would
be fair, my answer would be "every cent I have." Unlike you, my wife
and I are making sure thats where every cent is headed anyway.

Rather than worry about paying an extra $10 towards your kids why not
try to do more for them? Rather than complain and blame the government
for bad schools why not get involved and make their schools a little
better? Rather than bitch and moan constantly why not improve
yourself?

======

You lost all credibility with other posters when you came in here claiming
to be a man and then admitted you are a woman. Then you came back
pretending to be a man again and then admitted again you are really a woman.
Along the way you made it clear at least twice you didn't have a clue about
taxes. Now you claim you pay a huge tax bill. Anybody who listens to your
line of BS should do so with proper perspective.

[[e-mail]]

Post by ***@XXX.COM

Post by ***@XXX.COM

Post by ***@XXX.COM
I brought 2 of mine into the world with my own hands. I cleaned them

both off and cut their cords before handing them to their mother. In
addition, I decided when to get my wife pregnant. The first was a
mutual decision which involved no longer using birth control, the
second was a selfish decision I made at dinner after a few drinks.
You can't absolve yourself of your responsibility by acting stupid.
So you paid $450,000 in income tax last year, it will be rich when your wife
dumps you and that payment will seem like a drop in the bucket to support
the 2 kids you decided to bring into the world.
What do you think would be a fair payment to help support your two children,
would $300,000 per month be enough for them to survive on? Would your wife
be kicking in $300,000 too?

Do you think this stupid rant somehow proves your contention that I
didn't bring my children into the world? Have I struck some nerve in
the dark recesses of your brain where reality used to live? Are you
trying to fight off reality with the 2nd chorus of your 2 chorus "woe
is me" song?
Maybe you should stick to your basic stupid answer about me sending a
check to the IRS. I understand that someone like you (who doesn't even
want to support his own kids) finds it unthinkable that he should pay
for infrastructure, welfare, regular bills, or anything that won't get
him drunk.
And if you want to start a new topic about my kids and how much would
be fair, my answer would be "every cent I have." Unlike you, my wife
and I are making sure thats where every cent is headed anyway.
Rather than worry about paying an extra $10 towards your kids why not
try to do more for them? Rather than complain and blame the government
for bad schools why not get involved and make their schools a little
better? Rather than bitch and moan constantly why not improve
yourself?
======
You lost all credibility with other posters when you came in here claiming
to be a man and then admitted you are a woman.  Then you came back
pretending to be a man again and then admitted again you are really a woman.
Along the way you made it clear at least twice you didn't have a clue about
taxes.  Now you claim you pay a huge tax bill.  Anybody who listens to your
line of BS should do so with proper perspective.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

And you never had any credibility to begin with. You are devout
deadbeats the way scientologists are devout defenders of Xenu. You are
lying because you have no sensible answer. THis is what happens when
you spread your stupidity across other groups on usenet, people from
the outside world will read it and realize what a bunch of lying
shitheads you all are.

Now, lying shithead, show me where I said or claimed I was a woman.

[Bob W]

Post by ***@XXX.COM

Post by ***@XXX.COM

Post by ***@XXX.COM
I brought 2 of mine into the world with my own hands. I cleaned them

both off and cut their cords before handing them to their mother. In
addition, I decided when to get my wife pregnant. The first was a
mutual decision which involved no longer using birth control, the
second was a selfish decision I made at dinner after a few drinks.
You can't absolve yourself of your responsibility by acting stupid.
So you paid $450,000 in income tax last year, it will be rich when your wife
dumps you and that payment will seem like a drop in the bucket to support
the 2 kids you decided to bring into the world.
What do you think would be a fair payment to help support your two children,
would $300,000 per month be enough for them to survive on? Would your wife
be kicking in $300,000 too?

Do you think this stupid rant somehow proves your contention that I
didn't bring my children into the world? Have I struck some nerve in
the dark recesses of your brain where reality used to live? Are you
trying to fight off reality with the 2nd chorus of your 2 chorus "woe
is me" song?
Maybe you should stick to your basic stupid answer about me sending a
check to the IRS. I understand that someone like you (who doesn't even
want to support his own kids) finds it unthinkable that he should pay
for infrastructure, welfare, regular bills, or anything that won't get
him drunk.
And if you want to start a new topic about my kids and how much would
be fair, my answer would be "every cent I have." Unlike you, my wife
and I are making sure thats where every cent is headed anyway.
Rather than worry about paying an extra $10 towards your kids why not
try to do more for them? Rather than complain and blame the government
for bad schools why not get involved and make their schools a little
better? Rather than bitch and moan constantly why not improve
yourself?
======
You lost all credibility with other posters when you came in here claiming
to be a man and then admitted you are a woman. Then you came back
pretending to be a man again and then admitted again you are really a woman.
Along the way you made it clear at least twice you didn't have a clue about
taxes. Now you claim you pay a huge tax bill. Anybody who listens to your
line of BS should do so with proper perspective.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

And you never had any credibility to begin with. You are devout
deadbeats the way scientologists are devout defenders of Xenu. You are
lying because you have no sensible answer. THis is what happens when
you spread your stupidity across other groups on usenet, people from
the outside world will read it and realize what a bunch of lying
shitheads you all are.

Now, lying shithead, show me where I said or claimed I was a woman.

======

You can Google your previous nonsense by searching on your user name.
Either you are the person who has misrepresented themselves in these
newsgroups or you have someone in your household doing that for you.

[[e-mail]]

Post by ***@XXX.COM
Now, lying shithead, show me where I said or claimed I was a woman.
======
You can Google your previous nonsense by searching on your user name.
Either you are the person who has misrepresented themselves in these
newsgroups or you have someone in your household doing that for you.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

You made the accusation, back it up. I already know you are lying. Now
go ahead and point me to a post from me that says I am a woman. Here
is a hint to your lying choir .... if you could do it, you would have
already done it. Since you know you you can't, you must also know what
a lying shithead you are already. How does it feel to not even have
any credibility with yourself?

[Chris]

--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have
custody of such child.

Post by Chris
--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have

Post by Heywood Jablowmi

Post by n***@gmail.com

Post by DB
OK, so your story is you married a guy with 2 separate support orders and
you wanted to have 4 more with him.
You're either a crazy Loon or this is a Troll post designed to echo the
thoughts of ignorant people that know nothing about the Mother Support
System.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each case, so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child, there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.
The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband. When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to see his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat and
it's a huge pitt-bull.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, we have 3 together. I have one from a prev marriage. So what if he
had child support orders before we met? The point is, one of the kids
doesn't even live with its mother, and the other kid's mom want all
our money. I need HELP. I don't know what to do, but I'm not trying to
spend the rest of our lives dodging a bullet. Someone must know how to
atleast get the order closed on the kid that's about to be adopted.
======
A lot of the answers to your question deals with the timing of any changes
and the amounts involved.
Since there is an arrears you need to get a determination of how much is
owed to the mother and how much is owed to the state. Even though the
child
no longer lives with the mother the CS order has continued to accrue
arrears. With the child in foster care that portion of the order accrues
to
the state. When the child went into foster care the mother may have had
to
sign over all or part of her CS rights to the state. The bottom line is
the
arrearages owed will not go away but once the child is adopted the CS order
can be stopped from accruing further amounts due.
On the other order, it must include payment of uninsured medical expenses.
The amount you were asked to pay might be half, or a pro-rata
percentage,
of
the uninsured amount.
And finally, the courts could care less about the fact you have subsequent
children together. The CS orders for previous children take priority for
the available dollars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's not right. My husband is the only provider for our family. The
ex threatened to sue us at one point, but everything is in my name, so
I don't think she can sue me, or can she?
Why would those two children take priority over my children. I'm the
wife and our kids live with us.

Yes it is right... your husband has a responsibility to the children of
the first marriage. He should
have taken that into consideration before bringing more children into the
world.

Men don't "bring children into the world". Next....

I brought 2 of mine into the world with my own hands. I cleaned them
both off and cut their cords before handing them to their mother.

*****************

Equivocation. Nice try.

***************

In
addition, I decided when to get my wife pregnant. The first was a
mutual decision which involved no longer using birth control, the
second was a selfish decision I made at dinner after a few drinks.

You can't absolve yourself of your responsibility by acting stupid.

[[e-mail]]

Post by Chris
--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have

Post by Chris
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Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have

Post by Heywood Jablowmi

Post by n***@gmail.com

Post by DB
OK, so your story is you married a guy with 2 separate support orders and
you wanted to have 4 more with him.
You're either a crazy Loon or this is a Troll post designed to echo the
thoughts of ignorant people that know nothing about the Mother Support
System.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each case, so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child, there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.
The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband. When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to see his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat and
it's a huge pitt-bull.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, we have 3 together. I have one from a prev marriage. So what if he
had child support orders before we met? The point is, one of the kids
doesn't even live with its mother, and the other kid's mom want all
our money. I need HELP. I don't know what to do, but I'm not trying to
spend the rest of our lives dodging a bullet. Someone must know how to
atleast get the order closed on the kid that's about to be adopted.
======
A lot of the answers to your question deals with the timing of any changes
and the amounts involved.
Since there is an arrears you need to get a determination of how much is
owed to the mother and how much is owed to the state. Even though the
child
no longer lives with the mother the CS order has continued to accrue
arrears. With the child in foster care that portion of the order accrues
to
the state. When the child went into foster care the mother may have had
to
sign over all or part of her CS rights to the state. The bottom line is
the
arrearages owed will not go away but once the child is adopted the CS order
can be stopped from accruing further amounts due.
On the other order, it must include payment of uninsured medical expenses.
The amount you were asked to pay might be half, or a pro-rata
percentage,
of
the uninsured amount.
And finally, the courts could care less about the fact you have subsequent
children together. The CS orders for previous children take priority for
the available dollars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's not right. My husband is the only provider for our family. The
ex threatened to sue us at one point, but everything is in my name, so
I don't think she can sue me, or can she?
Why would those two children take priority over my children. I'm the
wife and our kids live with us.

Yes it is right... your husband has a responsibility to the children of
the first marriage. He should
have taken that into consideration before bringing more children into the
world.

Men don't "bring children into the world". Next....

I brought 2 of mine into the world with my own hands. I cleaned them
both off and cut their cords before handing them to their mother.
                *****************
Equivocation. Nice try.
             ***************

Sorry stupid, I did bring them into the world along with a doctor and
a nurse. So mine is a case where a man did bring children into the
world.

[Chris]

--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have
custody of such child.

Post by Chris
--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have

Post by Chris
--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have

Post by Heywood Jablowmi

Post by n***@gmail.com

Post by DB
OK, so your story is you married a guy with 2 separate support
orders
and
you wanted to have 4 more with him.
You're either a crazy Loon or this is a Troll post designed to echo the
thoughts of ignorant people that know nothing about the Mother Support
System.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each
case,
so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child, there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.
The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband. When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to
see
his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat and
it's a huge pitt-bull.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, we have 3 together. I have one from a prev marriage. So what if he
had child support orders before we met? The point is, one of the kids
doesn't even live with its mother, and the other kid's mom want all
our money. I need HELP. I don't know what to do, but I'm not trying to
spend the rest of our lives dodging a bullet. Someone must know how to
atleast get the order closed on the kid that's about to be adopted.
======
A lot of the answers to your question deals with the timing of any changes
and the amounts involved.
Since there is an arrears you need to get a determination of how much is
owed to the mother and how much is owed to the state. Even though the
child
no longer lives with the mother the CS order has continued to accrue
arrears. With the child in foster care that portion of the order accrues
to
the state. When the child went into foster care the mother may have had
to
sign over all or part of her CS rights to the state. The bottom line is
the
arrearages owed will not go away but once the child is adopted the CS order
can be stopped from accruing further amounts due.
On the other order, it must include payment of uninsured medical expenses.
The amount you were asked to pay might be half, or a pro-rata
percentage,
of
the uninsured amount.
And finally, the courts could care less about the fact you have subsequent
children together. The CS orders for previous children take priority for
the available dollars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's not right. My husband is the only provider for our family. The
ex threatened to sue us at one point, but everything is in my name, so
I don't think she can sue me, or can she?
Why would those two children take priority over my children. I'm the
wife and our kids live with us.

Yes it is right... your husband has a responsibility to the children of
the first marriage. He should
have taken that into consideration before bringing more children into the
world.

Men don't "bring children into the world". Next....

I brought 2 of mine into the world with my own hands. I cleaned them
both off and cut their cords before handing them to their mother.
*****************
Equivocation. Nice try.
***************

Sorry stupid, I did bring them into the world along with a doctor and
a nurse. So mine is a case where a man did bring children into the
world.

*************

Try reviewing the concept of equivocation, then get back to me.

[[e-mail]]

Try reviewing the concept of equivocation, then get back to me.- Hide quoted text -
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Try to show me a more direct description of "bringing a child into the
world" than getting my wife pregnant and taking the baby out of her
and cutting the cord. See the simplicity of the truth?

[Chris]

--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have
custody of such child.

Try reviewing the concept of equivocation, then get back to me.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Try to show me a more direct description of "bringing a child into the
world" than getting my wife pregnant and taking the baby out of her
and cutting the cord.

**************

Giving birth. But you already knew that.

*************

See the simplicity of the truth?

[[e-mail]]

Post by Chris
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Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have

Try reviewing the concept of equivocation, then get back to me.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Try to show me a more direct description of "bringing a child into the
world" than getting my wife pregnant and taking the baby out of her
and cutting the cord.
                **************
Giving birth. But you already knew that.
            *************
See the simplicity of the truth?

That doesn't change the fact that what I did was "bringing a child
into the world" as a matter of fact I brought the child into the world
while my wife was pushing them out into the world.

[Chris]

--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have
custody of such child.

Post by Chris
--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have

Try reviewing the concept of equivocation, then get back to me.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Try to show me a more direct description of "bringing a child into the
world" than getting my wife pregnant and taking the baby out of her
and cutting the cord.
**************
Giving birth. But you already knew that.
*************
See the simplicity of the truth?

That doesn't change the fact that what I did was "bringing a child
into the world" as a matter of fact I brought the child into the world
while my wife was pushing them out into the world.

*************

You can play games with words all you like, but the fact remains that my
statement was in reference to a woman giving birth. You know that, I know
that, and everybody who read my post knows that.

[[e-mail]]

Post by Chris
--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have

Post by Chris
--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have

Try reviewing the concept of equivocation, then get back to me.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Try to show me a more direct description of "bringing a child into the
world" than getting my wife pregnant and taking the baby out of her
and cutting the cord.
**************
Giving birth. But you already knew that.
*************
See the simplicity of the truth?

That doesn't change the fact that what I did was "bringing a child
into the world" as a matter of fact I brought the child into the world
while my wife was pushing them out into the world.
               *************
You can play games with words all you like, but the fact remains that my
statement was in reference to a woman giving birth. You know that, I know
that, and everybody who read my post knows that.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Unfortunately you aren't able to play games with words, it seems you
barely know how to use them. Have you looked up the word "any" yet?

Everyone who has kids knows that men are an integral part of bringing
children into the world. Many of us have done exactly what I did as
far as bringing children into the world.

[DB]

Post by Chris
--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have

Post by Chris
--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have

Try reviewing the concept of equivocation, then get back to me.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Try to show me a more direct description of "bringing a child into the
world" than getting my wife pregnant and taking the baby out of her
and cutting the cord.
**************
Giving birth. But you already knew that.
*************
See the simplicity of the truth?

That doesn't change the fact that what I did was "bringing a child
into the world" as a matter of fact I brought the child into the world
while my wife was pushing them out into the world.
*************
You can play games with words all you like, but the fact remains that my
statement was in reference to a woman giving birth. You know that, I know
that, and everybody who read my post knows that.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Unfortunately you aren't able to play games with words, it seems you
barely know how to use them. Have you looked up the word "any" yet?

Everyone who has kids knows that men are an integral part of bringing
children into the world. Many of us have done exactly what I did as
far as bringing children into the world.
*********************

TROLL BAIT ALERT!

[[e-mail]]

Post by ***@XXX.COM

Post by Chris
--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have

Post by Chris
--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have

Try reviewing the concept of equivocation, then get back to me.- Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Try to show me a more direct description of "bringing a child into the
world" than getting my wife pregnant and taking the baby out of her
and cutting the cord.
**************
Giving birth. But you already knew that.
*************
See the simplicity of the truth?

That doesn't change the fact that what I did was "bringing a child
into the world" as a matter of fact I brought the child into the world
while my wife was pushing them out into the world.
*************
You can play games with words all you like, but the fact remains that my
statement was in reference to a woman giving birth. You know that, I know
that, and everybody who read my post knows that.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Unfortunately you aren't able to play games with words, it seems you
barely know how to use them. Have you looked up the word "any" yet?
Everyone who has kids knows that men are an integral part of bringing
children into the world. Many of us have done exactly what I did as
far as bringing children into the world.
*********************
TROLL BAIT ALERT!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Whine alert. Check the headers and see that you idiots are just
getting the responses you deserve after crossposting your bullshit and
begging for attention.

My apologies to the political groups who are being annoyed by my
feeding of the whiner trolls. Unfortunately it never ceases to amaze
me how dishonest and illogical a bunch of idiots who devote their
lives to the cause of not supporting kids can be.

[Chris]

--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have
custody of such child.

Post by ***@XXX.COM

Post by Chris
--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have

Post by Chris
--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have

Try reviewing the concept of equivocation, then get back to me.- Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Try to show me a more direct description of "bringing a child into the
world" than getting my wife pregnant and taking the baby out of her
and cutting the cord.
**************
Giving birth. But you already knew that.
*************
See the simplicity of the truth?

That doesn't change the fact that what I did was "bringing a child
into the world" as a matter of fact I brought the child into the world
while my wife was pushing them out into the world.
*************
You can play games with words all you like, but the fact remains that my
statement was in reference to a woman giving birth. You know that, I know
that, and everybody who read my post knows that.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Unfortunately you aren't able to play games with words, it seems you
barely know how to use them. Have you looked up the word "any" yet?
Everyone who has kids knows that men are an integral part of bringing
children into the world. Many of us have done exactly what I did as
far as bringing children into the world.
*********************
TROLL BAIT ALERT!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Whine alert. Check the headers and see that you idiots are just
getting the responses you deserve after crossposting your bullshit and
begging for attention.

My apologies to the political groups who are being annoyed by my
feeding of the whiner trolls. Unfortunately it never ceases to amaze
me how dishonest and illogical a bunch of idiots who devote their
lives to the cause of not supporting kids can be.

**************

Correction: The cause of fighting extortion.

[Chris]

--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have
custody of such child.

Post by Chris
--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have

Post by Chris
--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have

Try reviewing the concept of equivocation, then get back to me.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Try to show me a more direct description of "bringing a child into the
world" than getting my wife pregnant and taking the baby out of her
and cutting the cord.
**************
Giving birth. But you already knew that.
*************
See the simplicity of the truth?

That doesn't change the fact that what I did was "bringing a child
into the world" as a matter of fact I brought the child into the world
while my wife was pushing them out into the world.
*************
You can play games with words all you like, but the fact remains that my
statement was in reference to a woman giving birth. You know that, I know
that, and everybody who read my post knows that.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Unfortunately you aren't able to play games with words, it seems you
barely know how to use them.

**************

For instance?

************

Have you looked up the word "any" yet?

Everyone who has kids knows that men are an integral part of bringing
children into the world. Many of us have done exactly what I did as
far as bringing children into the world.

**************

Still stuck on your equivocation.

[teachrmama]

Post by n***@gmail.com

Post by DB
OK, so your story is you married a guy with 2 separate support orders and
you wanted to have 4 more with him.
You're either a crazy Loon or this is a Troll post designed to echo the
thoughts of ignorant people that know nothing about the Mother Support
System.

Post by n***@gmail.com
I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each case, so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child, there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.
The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband. When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to see his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat and
it's a huge pitt-bull.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, we have 3 together. I have one from a prev marriage. So what if he
had child support orders before we met? The point is, one of the kids
doesn't even live with its mother, and the other kid's mom want all
our money. I need HELP. I don't know what to do, but I'm not trying to
spend the rest of our lives dodging a bullet. Someone must know how to
atleast get the order closed on the kid that's about to be adopted.
======
A lot of the answers to your question deals with the timing of any changes
and the amounts involved.
Since there is an arrears you need to get a determination of how much is
owed to the mother and how much is owed to the state. Even though the
child
no longer lives with the mother the CS order has continued to accrue
arrears. With the child in foster care that portion of the order
accrues to
the state. When the child went into foster care the mother may have
had to
sign over all or part of her CS rights to the state. The bottom line
is the
arrearages owed will not go away but once the child is adopted the CS order
can be stopped from accruing further amounts due.
On the other order, it must include payment of uninsured medical expenses.
The amount you were asked to pay might be half, or a pro-rata percentage, of
the uninsured amount.
And finally, the courts could care less about the fact you have subsequent
children together. The CS orders for previous children take priority
for
the available dollars.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's not right. My husband is the only provider for our family. The
ex threatened to sue us at one point, but everything is in my name, so
I don't think she can sue me, or can she?
Why would those two children take priority over my children. I'm the
wife and our kids live with us.

 Yes it is right... your husband has a responsibility to the children of
the first marriage. He should
 have taken that into consideration before bringing more children into
the world. Her children have
 priority because they were around long before you and your kids that
you had with him and the
 other children have the luxury of a court order for support.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

That's a bit of an arrogant answer, I think. The fact that the older
children were around longer does not make them any more deserving of
being supported, even if family law might say it does. A child is a
child, and no child should be relegated to secondary status!

My husband and I had two children when he found out he had an
almost-13-year-old daughter from a one night stand long before we
met. Why did the discovery of that child relegate our children to
irrelevance? Why did that child receive more per month than we spent
on our 2 children combined? It may be the way the law is written,
but that does not make it right!

[DB]

Post by teachrmama
Why did that child receive more per month than we spent

on our 2 children combined? It may be the way the law is written,
but that does not make it right!

The rates are set far too high and very unrealistic!

[s***@yahoo.com]

I hope someone can helpmeout!Myhusband has two other children with
two other women, and two orders forchildsupport. The two combinedchildsupportorders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higherchildsupportamount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children ismyhusbandschild.Myhusbands brother and his wife are in the process of adopting
thatchild, becausemyhusband owes over $30,000.00 for each case,sohecan not make any moves orchildsupportWILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even ifhewere to get thechild, there
is another case forchildsupport, and believeme, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the otherchildaway from its mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on thatex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, butchildsupportis still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and thechilddoesn'teven reside with the mother.
The otherexis a bitch, and just wants money frommyhusband. When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don'twantmyhusband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill topay. AS IF! We can barelypayour own
bills for the children we have together,soI don't see why that whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she was
able topay$2,300, why couldn't shepaythe other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is thatmyhusbands problem? We have 4 kids living
with us, and she has onechild,soI think our needs are far greater
than her and her childs needs.Myhusbanddoesn'tevenwantto see his
son because thenhewould have to deal with the mother. She has two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college,soI would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils thechildand treats him
likehe'sthe messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get thechildsupportcase which thechildno longeru
lives with the mother dropped?
 2. How can I get the otherchildaway from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat and
it's a huge pitt-bull

you shouldnt have kids if you cant support them. i hope they put that
deadbeat husband of yours goes to jail and maybe you should get
support from your babies father. you should go to jail to for trying
to help the deadbeat get off. i just want to know what makes you think
he is going to support your kids. i think you are seriously crazy. my
daughters father owes me 24,000 in back childsupport and 1167 a month.
he has a dumb wife like yourself. you shouldnt have married a guy that
had a kid. obviously the douche bag of a father doesnt make for good
decisions.

[DB]

Post by s***@yahoo.com
he is going to support your kids. i think you are seriously crazy. my

daughters father owes me 24,000 in back childsupport and 1167 a month.


Wow, it takes $2300 a month to feed your child?

[whatamess]

Post by s***@yahoo.com

Post by s***@yahoo.com
he is going to support your kids. i think you are seriously crazy. my

daughters father owes me 24,000 in back childsupport and 1167 a month.
Wow, it takes $2300 a month to feed your child?

Funny, but if it takes 2300 a month to feed a child, my family is up
the creek...
thanks to the messed up laws my husband's now take home pay is less
than 2300 a month...for a family of 3...go figure...

[DB]

Post by s***@yahoo.com

Post by s***@yahoo.com
he is going to support your kids. i think you are seriously crazy. my

daughters father owes me 24,000 in back childsupport and 1167 a month.
Wow, it takes $2300 a month to feed your child?

Funny, but if it takes 2300 a month to feed a child, my family is up
the creek...
thanks to the messed up laws my husband's now take home pay is less
than 2300 a month...for a family of 3...go figure...
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That's just it, nobody is saying we don't want to help our own children, but
let us decide each month how much help they really need.

[Chris]

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Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have
custody of such child.

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Post by s***@yahoo.com
he is going to support your kids. i think you are seriously crazy. my

daughters father owes me 24,000 in back childsupport and 1167 a month.
Wow, it takes $2300 a month to feed your child?

Funny, but if it takes 2300 a month to feed a child, my family is up
the creek...
thanks to the messed up laws my husband's now take home pay is less
than 2300 a month...for a family of 3...go figure...

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Try telling the "child support" people that because they are taking away
your money, you are unable to properly care for your children. Of course
they'll tell you to take a hike. That's because it's "for the children".
:)

[Chris]

--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have
custody of such child.

Post by s***@yahoo.com

Post by s***@yahoo.com
he is going to support your kids. i think you are seriously crazy. my

daughters father owes me 24,000 in back childsupport and 1167 a month.
Wow, it takes $2300 a month to feed your child?

That was my thought.

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Post by Chris
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Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have

Post by s***@yahoo.com

Post by s***@yahoo.com
he is going to support your kids. i think you are seriously crazy. my

daughters father owes me 24,000 in back childsupport and 1167 a month.
Wow, it takes $2300 a month to feed your child?

That was my thought.

Lets not get too fast and loose with the word "thought" in your case.
After all you are the guy who thinks he should be allowed to beat his
kids in order to get out of his responsibility for them.

Let's instead move on to your second lie (or complete stupidity as the
case may be). Do you think that supporting a child involves nothing
more than feeding them? You can send your abandoned family to live on
a farm in El Salvador and 5 people can eat 3 or 4 good meals a day for
under $10. Maybe you just aren't cut out for this american lifestyle,
with the fancy food, the education, the health care, the store bought
haircuts and all the recreation that well rounded kids seem to enjoy.
I hear you can raise a kid in Africa for less than 39 cents a day,
maybe you should have shopped for bargains before you started having
kids you don't want to be responsible for.

[Chris]

--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have
custody of such child.

Post by Chris
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Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have

Post by s***@yahoo.com

Post by s***@yahoo.com
he is going to support your kids. i think you are seriously crazy. my

daughters father owes me 24,000 in back childsupport and 1167 a month.
Wow, it takes $2300 a month to feed your child?

That was my thought.

Lets not get too fast and loose with the word "thought" in your case.
After all you are the guy who thinks he should be allowed to beat his
kids in order to get out of his responsibility for them.

****
Oh?
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Let's instead move on to your second lie (or complete stupidity as the
case may be).

*******

Which is?

********

Do you think that supporting a child involves nothing
more than feeding them? You can send your abandoned family to live on
a farm in El Salvador and 5 people can eat 3 or 4 good meals a day for
under $10. Maybe you just aren't cut out for this american lifestyle,
with the fancy food, the education, the health care, the store bought
haircuts and all the recreation that well rounded kids seem to enjoy.
I hear you can raise a kid in Africa for less than 39 cents a day,
maybe you should have shopped for bargains before you started having
kids you don't want to be responsible for.

[Chris]

--
Any man that's good enough to pay child support is good enough to have
custody of such child.

Post by s***@yahoo.com

Post by s***@yahoo.com
he is going to support your kids. i think you are seriously crazy. my

daughters father owes me 24,000 in back childsupport and 1167 a month.
Wow, it takes $2300 a month to feed your child?

That was my thought.

[n***@gmail.com]

Post by s***@yahoo.com

I hope someone can helpmeout!Myhusband has two other children with
two other women, and two orders forchildsupport. The two combinedchildsupportorders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higherchildsupportamount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children ismyhusbandschild.Myhusbands brother and his wife are in the process of adopting
thatchild, becausemyhusband owes over $30,000.00 for each case,sohecan not make any moves orchildsupportWILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even ifhewere to get thechild, there
is another case forchildsupport, and believeme, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the otherchildaway from its mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on thatex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, butchildsupportis still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and thechilddoesn'teven reside with the mother.
The otherexis a bitch, and just wants money frommyhusband. When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don'twantmyhusband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill topay. AS IF! We can barelypayour own
bills for the children we have together,soI don't see why that whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she was
able topay$2,300, why couldn't shepaythe other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is thatmyhusbands problem? We have 4 kids living
with us, and she has onechild,soI think our needs are far greater
than her and her childs needs.Myhusbanddoesn'tevenwantto see his
son because thenhewould have to deal with the mother. She has two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college,soI would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils thechildand treats him
likehe'sthe messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get thechildsupportcase which thechildno longeru
lives with the mother dropped?
 2. How can I get the otherchildaway from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat and
it's a huge pitt-bull

you shouldnt have kids if you cant support them. i hope they put that
deadbeat husband of yours goes to jail and maybe you should get
support from your babies father. you should go to jail to for trying
to help the deadbeat get off. i just want to know what makes you think
he is going to support your kids. i think you are seriously crazy. my
daughters father owes me 24,000 in back childsupport and 1167 a month.
he has a dumb wife like yourself. you shouldnt have married a guy that
had a kid. obviously the douche bag of a father doesnt make for good
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Screw you. you're probably some welfare cow anyway with your hand out
for free money, just like all the whores with thier hands out waiting
for free money!

[1***@gmail.com]

Post by n***@gmail.com
I hope someone can help me out! My husband has two other children with
two other women, and two orders for child support. The two combined
child support orders total $1,785.50 per month.
The woman with the higher child support amount has lost ALL of her
children to the state of VA. One of those children is my husbands
child. My husbands brother and his wife are in the process of adopting
that child, because my husband owes over $30,000.00 for each case, so
he can not make any moves or child support WILL wipe us out and we
will loose EVERYTHING, because even if he were to get the child, there
is another case for child support, and believe me, I have tried
everything I can think of to get the other child away from its mother,
but NOBODY can find ANY dirt on that ex, not even CPS.
Anyway, the adoption is in process now, but child support is still
adding arrears to that case (as well as the other), and the child
doesn't even reside with the mother.
The other ex is a bitch, and just wants money from my husband. When
her son calls I just hang up on him because I don't want my husband
getting suckered into giving that woman ANY money. Last year she sent
us 1/4 of a medical bill to pay. AS IF! We can barely pay our own
bills for the children we have together, so I don't see why that whore
would think she is entitled for one dime toward any bills! If she was
able to pay $2,300, why couldn't she pay the other $766.00 of the
bill? Why the hell is that my husbands problem? We have 4 kids living
with us, and she has one child, so I think our needs are far greater
than her and her childs needs. My husband doesn't even want to see his
son because then he would have to deal with the mother. She has two
jobs and takes some classes at a community college, so I would say
they are well off, not to mention she spoils the child and treats him
like he's the messiah, or the second comming of christ.
1.How can we get the child support case which the child no longer
lives with the mother dropped?
2. How can I get the other child away from the mother? I've called
CPS numerous times but they always come back with there aren't any
problems in the home. They don't even consider the dog a threat and
it's a huge pitt-bull.

omg....you are horrible woman, take a step back. you hang up on the man's son? think about your children and if their dad did this to them? she is giving you 1/4 the bill... it may be hard be her actually owes half. children are a burden a and a blessing and every-time you reproduce it is your resolvability. maybe you should get a second job and take classes a a community college. She sounds like she works her ASS off a full time single mom, working two jobs and ing to school and asking for a little help from our husbands son! I know its hard but step back and do what's right. What you do is not to be compared to what bio parent do. its responsibility equal based on your pay not hers. You made more kids and as you can see from the one you have they are responsibility. It will all work out just believe that, and do what is right.