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Family Court Injustices to Men
Phyllis Schlafly Tuesday, July 21, 2009

Did you know that a family court can order a man to reimburse the
government for the welfare money, falsely labeled "child support,"
that was paid to the mother of a child to whom he is not related? Did
you know that, if he doesn't pay, a judge can sentence him to debtor's
prison without ever letting him have a jury trial?

Did you know that debtor's prisons (putting men in prison because they
can't pay a debt) were abolished in the United States before we
abolished slavery, but that they exist today to punish men who are too
poor to pay what is falsely called "child support"?

Did you know that when corporations can't pay their debts, they can
take bankruptcy, which means they pay off their debts for pennies on
the dollar, but a man can never get an alleged "child support" debt
forgiven or reduced, even if he is out of a job, penniless and
homeless, medically incapacitated, incarcerated (justly or unjustly)
or serving in our Armed Forces overseas, can't afford a lawyer, or
never owed the money in the first place?

Did you know that when a woman applying for welfare handouts lies
about who the father of her child is, she is never prosecuted for
perjury? Did you know that judges can refuse to accept DNA evidence
showing that the man she accuses is not the father?

Did you know that alleged "child support" has nothing to do with
supporting a child because the mother has no obligation to spend even
one dollar of it on a child, and in many cases none of the "support"
money ever gets to a child because it goes to fatten the payroll of
the child-support bureaucracy?

These are among the injustices that the feminists, and their docile
liberal male allies, have inflicted on men. The sponsor was former
Democratic Senator from New Jersey and presidential candidate Bill
Bradley.

His name is affixed to the Bradley Amendment, a 1986 federal law that
prohibits retroactive reduction of alleged "child support" even in any
of the circumstances listed above. The Bradley law denies bankruptcy
protections, overrides all statutes of limitation and forbids judicial
consideration of obvious inability to pay.

Most Bradley-law victims never come to national attention because, as
"Bias" author Bernard Goldberg said, mainstream media toe the feminist
propaganda line, among which is the epithet "deadbeat dads." But one
egregious case did make the news this summer.

Frank Hatley was in a Georgia jail for more than a year for failure to
pay alleged "child support" even though a DNA test nine years ago plus
a second one this year proved that he is not the father. The Aug. 21,
2001, court order, signed by Judge Dane Perkins, acknowledged that
Hatley is not the father but nevertheless ordered him to continue
paying and never told him he could have a court-appointed lawyer if he
could not afford one.

Hatley subsequently paid the government (not the mom or child)
thousands of dollars in "child support," and after he was laid off
from his job unloading charcoal grills from shipping containers and
reduced to living in his car, he continued making payments out of his
unemployment benefits.

But he didn't pay enough to satisfy the avaricious child-support
bureaucrats, so Perkins ruled Hatley in contempt and sent him to jail
without any jury trial. With the help of a Legal Services lawyer, he
has now been relieved from future assessments and released from jail,
but (because of the Bradley Amendment) the government is demanding
that Hatley continue paying at the rate of $250 a month until he pays
off the $16,398 debt the government claims he accumulated earlier
(even though the court then knew he was not the father).

This system is morally and constitutionally wrong, yet all the
authorities say the court orders were lawful.

Another type of feminist indignity is the use in divorce cases of
false allegations of child sexual abuse in order to gain child custody
and the financial windfall that goes with it. Former Vancouver, Wa.,
police officer Ray Spencer has spent nearly 20 years in prison after
being convicted of molesting his two children who are now adults and
say it never happened.

The son, who was 9 years old at the time, was questioned, alone, for
months until he said he had been abused in order to get the detective
to leave him alone. The daughter, who was then age 5, said she talked
to the detective after he gave her ice cream.

There were many other violations of due process in Spencer's trial,
such as prosecutors withholding medical exams that showed no evidence
of abuse and his court-appointed lawyer failing to prepare a defense,
but the judge nevertheless sentenced Spencer to two life terms in
prison plus 14 years. Spencer was five times denied parole because he
refused to admit guilt, a customary parole practice that is
maliciously designed to save face for prosecutors who prosecute
innocent men.
Masculist
2009-07-21 17:40:06 UTC
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Family Court Injustices to Men
Phyllis Schlafly    Tuesday, July 21, 2009
I just put this up on my Facebook "Wall". <smile> Good one Denise
but I'm getting VERY unpopular on Facebook.

I have some criticisms of it though. The outrage isn't that a few
guys through false paternity get nailed, which I grant is pretty
outrageous, but that the government rips off their kids, the ex goes
on welfare with her boyfriends and then the government sticks the
father with the bill!!! Where are the guys on the Right about this?
The talking heads on radio are still bitching about welfare which was
effectively ended when the biological fathers got the bill with
Clinton's Welfare Reform.

As for "docile liberal males" who support this outrage AND betrayal of
their fellow men, yes, it's the "dociles" who have primary
responsibility, but the guys and gals on the Right also supported it.
It might be that they were the ones who demanded it.

Tom
Did you know that a family court can order a man to reimburse the
government for the welfare money, falsely labeled "child support,"
that was paid to the mother of a child to whom he is not related? Did
you know that, if he doesn't pay, a judge can sentence him to debtor's
prison without ever letting him have a jury trial?
Did you know that debtor's prisons (putting men in prison because they
can't pay a debt) were abolished in the United States before we
abolished slavery, but that they exist today to punish men who are too
poor to pay what is falsely called "child support"?
Did you know that when corporations can't pay their debts, they can
take bankruptcy, which means they pay off their debts for pennies on
the dollar, but a man can never get an alleged "child support" debt
forgiven or reduced, even if he is out of a job, penniless and
homeless, medically incapacitated, incarcerated (justly or unjustly)
or serving in our Armed Forces overseas, can't afford a lawyer, or
never owed the money in the first place?
Did you know that when a woman applying for welfare handouts lies
about who the father of her child is, she is never prosecuted for
perjury? Did you know that judges can refuse to accept DNA evidence
showing that the man she accuses is not the father?
Did you know that alleged "child support" has nothing to do with
supporting a child because the mother has no obligation to spend even
one dollar of it on a child, and in many cases none of the "support"
money ever gets to a child because it goes to fatten the payroll of
the child-support bureaucracy?
These are among the injustices that the feminists, and their docile
liberal male allies, have inflicted on men. The sponsor was former
Democratic Senator from New Jersey and presidential candidate Bill
Bradley.
His name is affixed to the Bradley Amendment, a 1986 federal law that
prohibits retroactive reduction of alleged "child support" even in any
of the circumstances listed above. The Bradley law denies bankruptcy
protections, overrides all statutes of limitation and forbids judicial
consideration of obvious inability to pay.
Most Bradley-law victims never come to national attention because, as
"Bias" author Bernard Goldberg said, mainstream media toe the feminist
propaganda line, among which is the epithet "deadbeat dads." But one
egregious case did make the news this summer.
Frank Hatley was in a Georgia jail for more than a year for failure to
pay alleged "child support" even though a DNA test nine years ago plus
a second one this year proved that he is not the father. The Aug. 21,
2001, court order, signed by Judge Dane Perkins, acknowledged that
Hatley is not the father but nevertheless ordered him to continue
paying and never told him he could have a court-appointed lawyer if he
could not afford one.
Hatley subsequently paid the government (not the mom or child)
thousands of dollars in "child support," and after he was laid off
from his job unloading charcoal grills from shipping containers and
reduced to living in his car, he continued making payments out of his
unemployment benefits.
But he didn't pay enough to satisfy the avaricious child-support
bureaucrats, so Perkins ruled Hatley in contempt and sent him to jail
without any jury trial. With the help of a Legal Services lawyer, he
has now been relieved from future assessments and released from jail,
but (because of the Bradley Amendment) the government is demanding
that Hatley continue paying at the rate of $250 a month until he pays
off the $16,398 debt the government claims he accumulated earlier
(even though the court then knew he was not the father).
This system is morally and constitutionally wrong, yet all the
authorities say the court orders were lawful.
Another type of feminist indignity is the use in divorce cases of
false allegations of child sexual abuse in order to gain child custody
and the financial windfall that goes with it. Former Vancouver, Wa.,
police officer Ray Spencer has spent nearly 20 years in prison after
being convicted of molesting his two children who are now adults and
say it never happened.
The son, who was 9 years old at the time, was questioned, alone, for
months until he said he had been abused in order to get the detective
to leave him alone. The daughter, who was then age 5, said she talked
to the detective after he gave her ice cream.
There were many other violations of due process in Spencer's trial,
such as prosecutors withholding medical exams that showed no evidence
of abuse and his court-appointed lawyer failing to prepare a defense,
but the judge nevertheless sentenced Spencer to two life terms in
prison plus 14 years. Spencer was five times denied parole because he
refused to admit guilt, a customary parole practice that is
maliciously designed to save face for prosecutors who prosecute
innocent men.
Greegor
2009-07-21 18:35:37 UTC
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[...] ...Right also supported it.
It might be that they were the ones who demanded it.
I feel the same way about the OUTRIGHT socialism
that Child Protection agencies represent.

Over the last 100 years, Both of our two major parties
have slid gradually but considerably to the left, toward statism/
socialism/totalitarianism.

It's closer to "as advertised" for Liberals, but
it makes the very definition of conservatism
kind of an absurdity.

The London School of Economics was founded by the
Fabian Society (Gradual Socialists)

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.education/browse_frm/thread/bbc49a7933d5c52e/3aa97affb2359743


A founding father of US Social Work said kids too important to be
trusted to parents

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.education/msg/38b8d41da7411f54

One of the founding fathers of Social Work,
Arthur Wallace Calhoun, in 1919 wrote that
kids are too important to be trusted to mere parents.

If the avowed Socialists who actually started ""Social Work""
had their way, all children would be property of the
"Socialist Commonwealth".

Look up Parens Patriae and you'll find out that
all kids already are "children of the state" in the USA.

It is not only in anticipation of wartime that
children are important to the state.

Ironically, the state has proven over and
over again to be the WORST possible parent.

As such, being "second guessed" by these incompetents
is surreal.

Some other American founders for Social Work
were the Fabians. They had a logo (crest or artwork)
that was a wolf in sheeps clothing, which apparently
the Child Protection INDUSTRY has taken to heart
as evidenced by much of their behavior.

Arthur Wallace Calhoun, PhD
taught at Brockwood Labor College
and the CP's Workers School.

(Communist Party)

A Social History of the American Family:
From Colonial Times to the Present 1919
by Arthur H Clark Company Cleveland, Ohio

In 1927, for the American Academy of Political & Social Science,
he wrote "The Worker looks at government" 176 pages.

"The family goes back to the age of savagery while the
state belongs to the age of civilization. The modern
individual is a world citizen, served by the world,
and home interests can no longer be supreme"...

"socialism is"...
"we may expect in the socialist commonwealth"...

G > Please explain to me where the dignity of the family
G > fits in with that OUTRIGHT socialist political agenda
G > to trash the US Family in general?

http://www.profam.org/docs/acc/thc.acc.050131.homecoming.htm

Early 20th Century American Progressives also saw the care and
teaching of small children at home as a problem. As the historian
Arthur Calhoun wrote in his influential 1918 volume, A Social History
of the American Family:

The new view is that the higher and more obligatory relation is to
society rather than to family. The family goes back to the age of
savagery, while the state belongs to the age of civilization. The
modern individual is a world citizen, served by the world, and home
interests can no longer be supreme.[5]

http://www.newswithviews.com/Cuddy/dennis14.htm

Cuddy article also quoted on several other web sites.

MENTAL HEALTH AND WORLD CITIZENSHIP
By Dennis L. Cuddy, Ph.D.
August 11, 2004
In a recent article, I related that the Bush administration's
Secretary of Education Rod Paige last October 3 declared that the
U.S.
is pleased to rejoin UNESCO where we could develop common strategies
to prepare our children to become "citizens of the world." [...]


More on the Fabian Society

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.education/msg/97c8d4cce00a0797

[...]

Before the Russian Revolution, the Communist Party had two wings:
Bolshevik and Menshevik. The Bolsheviks believed in the immediate
establishment of socialism through violence. The Mensheviks (who also
called themselves social democrats) argued for a gradual, non-
revolutionary path to the same goal. Liberty and property were to be
abolished by majority vote.

The Bolsheviks won, but after committing unimaginable crimes, they
have pretty much disappeared. The Mensheviks, however, are taking
over
America.

[...]

Our local Menshevism has its roots not in Lenin's Russia, but in the
London of 1883, when a group of go-slow socialists founded the Fabian
Society. Headed by the appropriately named Herbert Bland, its most
famous members were playwright George Bernard Shaw, authors Sidney
and
Beatrice Webb, and artist William Morris.

The Fabians took their name from Quintus Fabius Maximus, the Roman
general who defeated Hannibal in the Second Punic War by refusing to
fight large set-piece battles (which the Romans had lost against
Hannibal), but only engaging in small actions he knew he could win,
no
matter how long he had to wait.

Founded the year of Marx's death to promote his ideas through
gradualism, the Fabian Society sought to "honeycomb" society, as
Fabian Margaret Cole put it, with disguised socialist measures. By
glossing over its goals, the Fabian Society hoped to avoid
galvanizing
the enemies of socialism.

[...]

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