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Tiffany
2004-07-29 15:52:17 UTC
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http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/96391_malepill20.shtml

this article appeared in Nov. 2002

Male birth-control pill studied

By KATHY GEORGE
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER

"Don't worry, honey, I'm on the pill."

Some day soon, that could be a man speaking.




Doctors at the University of Washington are renewing long-stymied efforts to
develop a birth-control pill for men, who haven't had a new contraceptive
product since the condom's invention centuries ago.

The UW researchers plan to recruit about 50 men to test a tablet that, like
the female pill that spawned the sexual revolution of the 1960s,

uses hormones to trick the body.

But instead of suppressing a woman's egg once a month, this new pill would
block millions of sperm produced by a man each day.

"It actually is somewhat harder, biologically, to turn off the production of
all sperm," said Dr. William Bremner, director of the UW's Male
Contraception Research Center, just created with a $9.5 million, five-year
federal grant.

Bremner has been working on male contraceptives for 25 years. Research in
the field has moved slowly, he said, because society as a whole -- and the
American pharmaceutical industry -- still believe that preventing pregnancy
"is really a female issue."

"I just do not see pharmaceutical companies in general stepping up to fund
this kind of research," Bremner said. "The American companies -- it's hard
to get them to talk to you."

It boils down to this: If a safe and effective pill is marketed, will men
buy it?

Zach Beck, 19, thinks so. He's been taking a birth-control pill every day --
and receiving weekly hormone injections -- as part of a preliminary,
month-long UW study of hormone levels that will help guide future studies.

"I really don't mind it. It's really safe," said Beck, a UW sophomore who is
being paid $300 for his participation.

"Just using condoms, they break," he said. "It's a big hassle, trying to get
24-hour emergency contraception . . . I'd so much rather take a pill every
day, just for that extra assurance."

Bremner and his colleagues agree men want alternatives.

"They just don't have a lot of options," said Dr. John Amory, one of the
principal investigators at the new center.

As it is, men account for just 30 percent of contraceptive use in the United
States. Half of that is condoms, the other half vasectomies. Both have
drawbacks.

For one thing, condoms aren't cheap. And many men dislike them because they
decrease sensation and can spoil the mood, Amory and Bremner said.

They also fail frequently. A couple relying exclusively on condoms for a
year has a 10 percent to 15 percent chance of pregnancy, Amory said.

Vasectomies, on the other hand, guarantee infertility, but some men are
squeamish about the surgery.

A male birth-control pill would allow men better control over their own
fertility, Amory said. It also would take some of the birth-control burden
off of women.

That's where the social implications loom large.

"It is a little bit of a tricky concept that a male would take a pill to
prevent a health risk (pregnancy) in a female," Bremner said.

Amory added, "The question I get asked at cocktail parties is: 'Would women
trust men to use it?' "

Beck, the student, said he wouldn't expect that.

The pill "would be for my assurance, not for my partner's."

Chris Charbonneau, president of Planned Parenthood of Western Washington,
welcomes a male pill, saying men would benefit from having more say over
pregnancy risks.

But birth control, if not seen as a woman's domain, still may be viewed as
fundamentally wrong in some quarters.

Sharon Park, director of the Washington State Catholic Conference, said,
"The church's position hasn't changed. We oppose the use of artificial
contraceptives. It wouldn't matter if it was male or female.

"We believe that sexual intercourse should only take place in marriage,"
which should be open to procreation, she said.

Partly because of religious and social concerns, male contraceptive research
has been neglected, Bremner said.

Only two companies, both in Europe, have been funding the research. Without
the $9.5 million grant from the National Institutes of Health, the UW's male
contraceptive work would have stopped, he said. The grant decision was
scientific, not political, he added. After Congress directed the institutes
to create contraceptive centers, Bremner applied for a grant and scientists
approved it, he said.

One company, Holland-based Organon, paid for some of Bremner's previous work
and claims it can bring a hormone-based injection for men to the market
within three to four years, Bremner said.

Long-term safety data is lacking for the male birth-control shots. But
short-term studies show they prevent pregnancy about 97 percent of the time,
making them about as effective as the female pill, the UW doctor said.

The UW researchers hope to develop a male pill that's as effective as the
shots, Amory said, and are trying to determine why the pill reduces but does
not stop sperm production in some men.

Here's how the pill should work.

"The testicle makes two things -- testosterone and sperm," Amory explained.
The pill uses external testosterone to shut down the brain's signals to the
testicle, which stops making sperm and internal testosterone. "It leaves the
guys with a healthy amount of testosterone so that they feel fine," the
doctor added.

Adding progestin has improved the male pill's effectiveness to about 95
percent, still a little short of the injection's prevention rate, Amory
said.

The UW's newly funded work goes beyond the pill. Researchers at the UW and
Washington State University are studying what controls sperm production,
hoping to identify an agent in the testis that -- unlike testosterone -- has
no other function.

Normally, testosterone travels through the man's body, stimulating muscle
mass, beard growth, sexual interest and prostate growth as well as sperm
production. Birth control would have fewer side effects if it used an agent
more specific to sperm production, Bremner explained.

The shorter-term goal, however, is a pill that stops sperm production but
keeps behavior, sexual function and metabolism normal and reduces the risk
of prostate disease.

With adequate research support, it can be done, Bremner said. And it should
be done.

"The burden of reversible contraception falls heavily on the female," he
said. "It's hard to justify that there haven't been any new male methods."

Charbonneau agrees.

"Women have always said, 'When is it going to be the man's turn?' "

P-I reporter Kathy George can be reached at ***@seattlepi.com
Bob
2004-07-29 16:53:08 UTC
Permalink
Yes, in response to a steadily growing number of men like Bob loudly
demanding equal research and products for men, the government is finally
granting a small fraction of their BC research budget for men's
research. It's very little and very late, but it's a start.

Note that even the researchers are mouthing the century old sexist
cowshit that it's harder to turn off sperm than turn off eggs -- before
they have done the research necessary to make any of that into
knowledge. AFTER they have done 30 years of well financed research they
might have a basis for that claim, but prior to the research it shows
that their research is as sexist as their heads. Even when they get a
small budget it goes to bigoted assholes who's minds are already made up
with historical lies.


Bob
Post by Tiffany
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/96391_malepill20.shtml
this article appeared in Nov. 2002
Male birth-control pill studied
By KATHY GEORGE
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER
"Don't worry, honey, I'm on the pill."
Some day soon, that could be a man speaking.
Doctors at the University of Washington are renewing long-stymied efforts to
develop a birth-control pill for men, who haven't had a new contraceptive
product since the condom's invention centuries ago.
The UW researchers plan to recruit about 50 men to test a tablet that, like
the female pill that spawned the sexual revolution of the 1960s,
uses hormones to trick the body.
But instead of suppressing a woman's egg once a month, this new pill would
block millions of sperm produced by a man each day.
"It actually is somewhat harder, biologically, to turn off the production of
all sperm," said Dr. William Bremner, director of the UW's Male
Contraception Research Center, just created with a $9.5 million, five-year
federal grant.
Bremner has been working on male contraceptives for 25 years. Research in
the field has moved slowly, he said, because society as a whole -- and the
American pharmaceutical industry -- still believe that preventing pregnancy
"is really a female issue."
"I just do not see pharmaceutical companies in general stepping up to fund
this kind of research," Bremner said. "The American companies -- it's hard
to get them to talk to you."
It boils down to this: If a safe and effective pill is marketed, will men
buy it?
Zach Beck, 19, thinks so. He's been taking a birth-control pill every day --
and receiving weekly hormone injections -- as part of a preliminary,
month-long UW study of hormone levels that will help guide future studies.
"I really don't mind it. It's really safe," said Beck, a UW sophomore who is
being paid $300 for his participation.
"Just using condoms, they break," he said. "It's a big hassle, trying to get
24-hour emergency contraception . . . I'd so much rather take a pill every
day, just for that extra assurance."
Bremner and his colleagues agree men want alternatives.
"They just don't have a lot of options," said Dr. John Amory, one of the
principal investigators at the new center.
As it is, men account for just 30 percent of contraceptive use in the United
States. Half of that is condoms, the other half vasectomies. Both have
drawbacks.
For one thing, condoms aren't cheap. And many men dislike them because they
decrease sensation and can spoil the mood, Amory and Bremner said.
They also fail frequently. A couple relying exclusively on condoms for a
year has a 10 percent to 15 percent chance of pregnancy, Amory said.
Vasectomies, on the other hand, guarantee infertility, but some men are
squeamish about the surgery.
A male birth-control pill would allow men better control over their own
fertility, Amory said. It also would take some of the birth-control burden
off of women.
That's where the social implications loom large.
"It is a little bit of a tricky concept that a male would take a pill to
prevent a health risk (pregnancy) in a female," Bremner said.
Amory added, "The question I get asked at cocktail parties is: 'Would women
trust men to use it?' "
Beck, the student, said he wouldn't expect that.
The pill "would be for my assurance, not for my partner's."
Chris Charbonneau, president of Planned Parenthood of Western Washington,
welcomes a male pill, saying men would benefit from having more say over
pregnancy risks.
But birth control, if not seen as a woman's domain, still may be viewed as
fundamentally wrong in some quarters.
Sharon Park, director of the Washington State Catholic Conference, said,
"The church's position hasn't changed. We oppose the use of artificial
contraceptives. It wouldn't matter if it was male or female.
"We believe that sexual intercourse should only take place in marriage,"
which should be open to procreation, she said.
Partly because of religious and social concerns, male contraceptive research
has been neglected, Bremner said.
Only two companies, both in Europe, have been funding the research. Without
the $9.5 million grant from the National Institutes of Health, the UW's male
contraceptive work would have stopped, he said. The grant decision was
scientific, not political, he added. After Congress directed the institutes
to create contraceptive centers, Bremner applied for a grant and scientists
approved it, he said.
One company, Holland-based Organon, paid for some of Bremner's previous work
and claims it can bring a hormone-based injection for men to the market
within three to four years, Bremner said.
Long-term safety data is lacking for the male birth-control shots. But
short-term studies show they prevent pregnancy about 97 percent of the time,
making them about as effective as the female pill, the UW doctor said.
The UW researchers hope to develop a male pill that's as effective as the
shots, Amory said, and are trying to determine why the pill reduces but does
not stop sperm production in some men.
Here's how the pill should work.
"The testicle makes two things -- testosterone and sperm," Amory explained.
The pill uses external testosterone to shut down the brain's signals to the
testicle, which stops making sperm and internal testosterone. "It leaves the
guys with a healthy amount of testosterone so that they feel fine," the
doctor added.
Adding progestin has improved the male pill's effectiveness to about 95
percent, still a little short of the injection's prevention rate, Amory
said.
The UW's newly funded work goes beyond the pill. Researchers at the UW and
Washington State University are studying what controls sperm production,
hoping to identify an agent in the testis that -- unlike testosterone -- has
no other function.
Normally, testosterone travels through the man's body, stimulating muscle
mass, beard growth, sexual interest and prostate growth as well as sperm
production. Birth control would have fewer side effects if it used an agent
more specific to sperm production, Bremner explained.
The shorter-term goal, however, is a pill that stops sperm production but
keeps behavior, sexual function and metabolism normal and reduces the risk
of prostate disease.
With adequate research support, it can be done, Bremner said. And it should
be done.
"The burden of reversible contraception falls heavily on the female," he
said. "It's hard to justify that there haven't been any new male methods."
Charbonneau agrees.
"Women have always said, 'When is it going to be the man's turn?' "
--
When did we divide into sides?

"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/


























[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]
Tiffany
2004-07-29 17:00:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bob
Yes, in response to a steadily growing number of men like Bob loudly
demanding equal research and products for men, the government is finally
granting a small fraction of their BC research budget for men's
research. It's very little and very late, but it's a start.
Note that even the researchers are mouthing the century old sexist
cowshit that it's harder to turn off sperm than turn off eggs -- before
they have done the research necessary to make any of that into
knowledge. AFTER they have done 30 years of well financed research they
might have a basis for that claim, but prior to the research it shows
that their research is as sexist as their heads. Even when they get a
small budget it goes to bigoted assholes who's minds are already made up
with historical lies.
Bob
Admit it, you just would never be happy. lol

Since you believe so strongly in this cause, tell us what you have done to
benefit it? (Besides coming here to Usenet) Write letters? Stage protests?
Help the other men make such a difference that you have made. lol

Oh yes.... I do believe this article makes parts of your past statements
WRONG.

T
Bob
2004-07-29 17:27:20 UTC
Permalink
More than 40 years after The Pill hit the market for women, scientists
still haven't produced a version for men.

"Scientists have known for 50 years that it should be possible to fiddle
with a man's hormones and make him sterile for a while. But that hasn't
produced a marketed product yet for lots of reasons, like sporadic
research funding, cultural concerns and limited interest by drug
companies, a recent report from the Institute of Medicine noted."


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/19/health/main612637.shtml



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Post by Tiffany
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/96391_malepill20.shtml
this article appeared in Nov. 2002
Male birth-control pill studied
By KATHY GEORGE
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER
"Don't worry, honey, I'm on the pill."
Some day soon, that could be a man speaking.
Doctors at the University of Washington are renewing long-stymied efforts to
develop a birth-control pill for men, who haven't had a new contraceptive
product since the condom's invention centuries ago.
The UW researchers plan to recruit about 50 men to test a tablet that, like
the female pill that spawned the sexual revolution of the 1960s,
uses hormones to trick the body.
But instead of suppressing a woman's egg once a month, this new pill would
block millions of sperm produced by a man each day.
"It actually is somewhat harder, biologically, to turn off the production of
all sperm," said Dr. William Bremner, director of the UW's Male
Contraception Research Center, just created with a $9.5 million, five-year
federal grant.
Bremner has been working on male contraceptives for 25 years. Research in
the field has moved slowly, he said, because society as a whole -- and the
American pharmaceutical industry -- still believe that preventing pregnancy
"is really a female issue."
"I just do not see pharmaceutical companies in general stepping up to fund
this kind of research," Bremner said. "The American companies -- it's hard
to get them to talk to you."
It boils down to this: If a safe and effective pill is marketed, will men
buy it?
Zach Beck, 19, thinks so. He's been taking a birth-control pill every day --
and receiving weekly hormone injections -- as part of a preliminary,
month-long UW study of hormone levels that will help guide future studies.
"I really don't mind it. It's really safe," said Beck, a UW sophomore who is
being paid $300 for his participation.
"Just using condoms, they break," he said. "It's a big hassle, trying to get
24-hour emergency contraception . . . I'd so much rather take a pill every
day, just for that extra assurance."
Bremner and his colleagues agree men want alternatives.
"They just don't have a lot of options," said Dr. John Amory, one of the
principal investigators at the new center.
As it is, men account for just 30 percent of contraceptive use in the United
States. Half of that is condoms, the other half vasectomies. Both have
drawbacks.
For one thing, condoms aren't cheap. And many men dislike them because they
decrease sensation and can spoil the mood, Amory and Bremner said.
They also fail frequently. A couple relying exclusively on condoms for a
year has a 10 percent to 15 percent chance of pregnancy, Amory said.
Vasectomies, on the other hand, guarantee infertility, but some men are
squeamish about the surgery.
A male birth-control pill would allow men better control over their own
fertility, Amory said. It also would take some of the birth-control burden
off of women.
That's where the social implications loom large.
"It is a little bit of a tricky concept that a male would take a pill to
prevent a health risk (pregnancy) in a female," Bremner said.
Amory added, "The question I get asked at cocktail parties is: 'Would women
trust men to use it?' "
Beck, the student, said he wouldn't expect that.
The pill "would be for my assurance, not for my partner's."
Chris Charbonneau, president of Planned Parenthood of Western Washington,
welcomes a male pill, saying men would benefit from having more say over
pregnancy risks.
But birth control, if not seen as a woman's domain, still may be viewed as
fundamentally wrong in some quarters.
Sharon Park, director of the Washington State Catholic Conference, said,
"The church's position hasn't changed. We oppose the use of artificial
contraceptives. It wouldn't matter if it was male or female.
"We believe that sexual intercourse should only take place in marriage,"
which should be open to procreation, she said.
Partly because of religious and social concerns, male contraceptive research
has been neglected, Bremner said.
Only two companies, both in Europe, have been funding the research. Without
the $9.5 million grant from the National Institutes of Health, the UW's male
contraceptive work would have stopped, he said. The grant decision was
scientific, not political, he added. After Congress directed the institutes
to create contraceptive centers, Bremner applied for a grant and scientists
approved it, he said.
One company, Holland-based Organon, paid for some of Bremner's previous work
and claims it can bring a hormone-based injection for men to the market
within three to four years, Bremner said.
Long-term safety data is lacking for the male birth-control shots. But
short-term studies show they prevent pregnancy about 97 percent of the time,
making them about as effective as the female pill, the UW doctor said.
The UW researchers hope to develop a male pill that's as effective as the
shots, Amory said, and are trying to determine why the pill reduces but does
not stop sperm production in some men.
Here's how the pill should work.
"The testicle makes two things -- testosterone and sperm," Amory explained.
The pill uses external testosterone to shut down the brain's signals to the
testicle, which stops making sperm and internal testosterone. "It leaves the
guys with a healthy amount of testosterone so that they feel fine," the
doctor added.
Adding progestin has improved the male pill's effectiveness to about 95
percent, still a little short of the injection's prevention rate, Amory
said.
The UW's newly funded work goes beyond the pill. Researchers at the UW and
Washington State University are studying what controls sperm production,
hoping to identify an agent in the testis that -- unlike testosterone -- has
no other function.
Normally, testosterone travels through the man's body, stimulating muscle
mass, beard growth, sexual interest and prostate growth as well as sperm
production. Birth control would have fewer side effects if it used an agent
more specific to sperm production, Bremner explained.
The shorter-term goal, however, is a pill that stops sperm production but
keeps behavior, sexual function and metabolism normal and reduces the risk
of prostate disease.
With adequate research support, it can be done, Bremner said. And it should
be done.
"The burden of reversible contraception falls heavily on the female," he
said. "It's hard to justify that there haven't been any new male methods."
Charbonneau agrees.
"Women have always said, 'When is it going to be the man's turn?' "
--
When did we divide into sides?

"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/


























[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]
Tiffany
2004-07-29 17:50:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bob
More than 40 years after The Pill hit the market for women, scientists
still haven't produced a version for men.
"Scientists have known for 50 years that it should be possible to fiddle
with a man's hormones and make him sterile for a while. But that hasn't
produced a marketed product yet for lots of reasons, like sporadic
research funding, cultural concerns and limited interest by drug
companies, a recent report from the Institute of Medicine noted."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/19/health/main612637.shtml
That is an interesting article. Thanks for finding it. It does prove though
that research has been going on, doesn't it. Until they actually market the
stuff, men should wear condoms or get snipped if they don't want kids.

T
Bob
2004-07-29 18:40:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tiffany
Post by Bob
More than 40 years after The Pill hit the market for women, scientists
still haven't produced a version for men.
"Scientists have known for 50 years that it should be possible to fiddle
with a man's hormones and make him sterile for a while. But that hasn't
produced a marketed product yet for lots of reasons, like sporadic
research funding, cultural concerns and limited interest by drug
companies, a recent report from the Institute of Medicine noted."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/19/health/main612637.shtml
That is an interesting article. Thanks for finding it. It does prove though
that research has been going on, doesn't it. Until they actually market the
stuff, men should wear condoms or get snipped if they don't want kids.
T
Translation: Fifty years of no funding, sexist cultural discrimination,
and no interest by drug companies, but Tif-Tif says that men can still
use the crud products invented in the 19th century, or be sterilized.

How very sexist of her.

Bob
--
When did we divide into sides?

"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/


























[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]
Tiffany
2004-07-29 18:52:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bob
Post by Tiffany
Post by Bob
More than 40 years after The Pill hit the market for women, scientists
still haven't produced a version for men.
"Scientists have known for 50 years that it should be possible to fiddle
with a man's hormones and make him sterile for a while. But that hasn't
produced a marketed product yet for lots of reasons, like sporadic
research funding, cultural concerns and limited interest by drug
companies, a recent report from the Institute of Medicine noted."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/19/health/main612637.shtml
That is an interesting article. Thanks for finding it. It does prove though
that research has been going on, doesn't it. Until they actually market the
stuff, men should wear condoms or get snipped if they don't want kids.
T
Translation: Fifty years of no funding, sexist cultural discrimination,
and no interest by drug companies, but Tif-Tif says that men can still
use the crud products invented in the 19th century, or be sterilized.
How very sexist of her.
Bob
--
Sexist or factual, Bob-bob? You seem to be having a hard time knowing what
words mean. May I suggest a dictionary?

T
AZ Astrea
2004-07-30 05:27:43 UTC
Permalink
This is, of course, good news. But look at how far away it is from becoming
a reality for the general population. There was an article from Australia,
I think, last year that said the same things. They keep saying that they're
getting closer and closer and saying it's only a couple years from being a
reality but heck that article was from 2002. So where's the pill?

Of course the government and the religious nuts have no desire to see this
come to fruition. There is no money to be made out of men using bc. That
is what will certainly screw things up! And I wouldn't be at all surprised
that shortly after the pill becomes available, and the birth rate plummets,
that they'll find a way to outlaw it. It all comes down to money. It
always has.

~AZ~
Post by Tiffany
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/96391_malepill20.shtml
this article appeared in Nov. 2002
Male birth-control pill studied
By KATHY GEORGE
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER
"Don't worry, honey, I'm on the pill."
Some day soon, that could be a man speaking.
Doctors at the University of Washington are renewing long-stymied efforts to
develop a birth-control pill for men, who haven't had a new contraceptive
product since the condom's invention centuries ago.
The UW researchers plan to recruit about 50 men to test a tablet that, like
the female pill that spawned the sexual revolution of the 1960s,
uses hormones to trick the body.
But instead of suppressing a woman's egg once a month, this new pill would
block millions of sperm produced by a man each day.
"It actually is somewhat harder, biologically, to turn off the production of
all sperm," said Dr. William Bremner, director of the UW's Male
Contraception Research Center, just created with a $9.5 million, five-year
federal grant.
Bremner has been working on male contraceptives for 25 years. Research in
the field has moved slowly, he said, because society as a whole -- and the
American pharmaceutical industry -- still believe that preventing pregnancy
"is really a female issue."
"I just do not see pharmaceutical companies in general stepping up to fund
this kind of research," Bremner said. "The American companies -- it's hard
to get them to talk to you."
It boils down to this: If a safe and effective pill is marketed, will men
buy it?
Zach Beck, 19, thinks so. He's been taking a birth-control pill every day --
and receiving weekly hormone injections -- as part of a preliminary,
month-long UW study of hormone levels that will help guide future studies.
"I really don't mind it. It's really safe," said Beck, a UW sophomore who is
being paid $300 for his participation.
"Just using condoms, they break," he said. "It's a big hassle, trying to get
24-hour emergency contraception . . . I'd so much rather take a pill every
day, just for that extra assurance."
Bremner and his colleagues agree men want alternatives.
"They just don't have a lot of options," said Dr. John Amory, one of the
principal investigators at the new center.
As it is, men account for just 30 percent of contraceptive use in the United
States. Half of that is condoms, the other half vasectomies. Both have
drawbacks.
For one thing, condoms aren't cheap. And many men dislike them because they
decrease sensation and can spoil the mood, Amory and Bremner said.
They also fail frequently. A couple relying exclusively on condoms for a
year has a 10 percent to 15 percent chance of pregnancy, Amory said.
Vasectomies, on the other hand, guarantee infertility, but some men are
squeamish about the surgery.
A male birth-control pill would allow men better control over their own
fertility, Amory said. It also would take some of the birth-control burden
off of women.
That's where the social implications loom large.
"It is a little bit of a tricky concept that a male would take a pill to
prevent a health risk (pregnancy) in a female," Bremner said.
Amory added, "The question I get asked at cocktail parties is: 'Would women
trust men to use it?' "
Beck, the student, said he wouldn't expect that.
The pill "would be for my assurance, not for my partner's."
Chris Charbonneau, president of Planned Parenthood of Western Washington,
welcomes a male pill, saying men would benefit from having more say over
pregnancy risks.
But birth control, if not seen as a woman's domain, still may be viewed as
fundamentally wrong in some quarters.
Sharon Park, director of the Washington State Catholic Conference, said,
"The church's position hasn't changed. We oppose the use of artificial
contraceptives. It wouldn't matter if it was male or female.
"We believe that sexual intercourse should only take place in marriage,"
which should be open to procreation, she said.
Partly because of religious and social concerns, male contraceptive research
has been neglected, Bremner said.
Only two companies, both in Europe, have been funding the research. Without
the $9.5 million grant from the National Institutes of Health, the UW's male
contraceptive work would have stopped, he said. The grant decision was
scientific, not political, he added. After Congress directed the institutes
to create contraceptive centers, Bremner applied for a grant and scientists
approved it, he said.
One company, Holland-based Organon, paid for some of Bremner's previous work
and claims it can bring a hormone-based injection for men to the market
within three to four years, Bremner said.
Long-term safety data is lacking for the male birth-control shots. But
short-term studies show they prevent pregnancy about 97 percent of the time,
making them about as effective as the female pill, the UW doctor said.
The UW researchers hope to develop a male pill that's as effective as the
shots, Amory said, and are trying to determine why the pill reduces but does
not stop sperm production in some men.
Here's how the pill should work.
"The testicle makes two things -- testosterone and sperm," Amory explained.
The pill uses external testosterone to shut down the brain's signals to the
testicle, which stops making sperm and internal testosterone. "It leaves the
guys with a healthy amount of testosterone so that they feel fine," the
doctor added.
Adding progestin has improved the male pill's effectiveness to about 95
percent, still a little short of the injection's prevention rate, Amory
said.
The UW's newly funded work goes beyond the pill. Researchers at the UW and
Washington State University are studying what controls sperm production,
hoping to identify an agent in the testis that -- unlike testosterone -- has
no other function.
Normally, testosterone travels through the man's body, stimulating muscle
mass, beard growth, sexual interest and prostate growth as well as sperm
production. Birth control would have fewer side effects if it used an agent
more specific to sperm production, Bremner explained.
The shorter-term goal, however, is a pill that stops sperm production but
keeps behavior, sexual function and metabolism normal and reduces the risk
of prostate disease.
With adequate research support, it can be done, Bremner said. And it should
be done.
"The burden of reversible contraception falls heavily on the female," he
said. "It's hard to justify that there haven't been any new male methods."
Charbonneau agrees.
"Women have always said, 'When is it going to be the man's turn?' "
Bob
2004-07-30 14:24:14 UTC
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Post by AZ Astrea
This is, of course, good news. But look at how far away it is from becoming
a reality for the general population. There was an article from Australia,
I think, last year that said the same things. They keep saying that they're
getting closer and closer and saying it's only a couple years from being a
reality but heck that article was from 2002. So where's the pill?
Of course the government and the religious nuts have no desire to see this
come to fruition. There is no money to be made out of men using bc. That
is what will certainly screw things up! And I wouldn't be at all surprised
that shortly after the pill becomes available, and the birth rate plummets,
that they'll find a way to outlaw it. It all comes down to money. It
always has.
~AZ~
Right on babe. A male pill would take away women's power to control
fertility and dominate men. The feminist lobby is very strongly opposed
to anything that would help men get free from their domination.

Bob
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"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/


























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posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]
Bob Whiteside
2004-07-30 17:11:46 UTC
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Post by AZ Astrea
This is, of course, good news. But look at how far away it is from becoming
a reality for the general population. There was an article from Australia,
I think, last year that said the same things. They keep saying that they're
getting closer and closer and saying it's only a couple years from being a
reality but heck that article was from 2002. So where's the pill?
Of course the government and the religious nuts have no desire to see this
come to fruition. There is no money to be made out of men using bc. That
is what will certainly screw things up! And I wouldn't be at all surprised
that shortly after the pill becomes available, and the birth rate plummets,
that they'll find a way to outlaw it. It all comes down to money. It
always has.
There are some related societal issues that could be changed by wide-spread
use of a male bc pill that alters men's hormones. Recent research in the
late 90's showed testosterone is a calming hormone.

When men have excess testosterone their bodies they naturally convert the
excess to estrogen and that is what makes men with high testosterone counts
get edgy. On the other side, women are calmer after sex because their
bodies absorb the high testosterone levels in male ejaculate to counter the
high estrogen levels in their bodies.

A male bc pill that alters the testosterone balance could cause men and
women to become more violent because they lack the benefits of testosterone
to keep them calm.
The Dave©
2004-07-30 17:18:34 UTC
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Post by AZ Astrea
Post by AZ Astrea
This is, of course, good news. But look at how far away it is from
becoming
Post by AZ Astrea
a reality for the general population. There was an article from
Australia,
Post by AZ Astrea
I think, last year that said the same things. They keep saying that
they're
Post by AZ Astrea
getting closer and closer and saying it's only a couple years from
being a reality but heck that article was from 2002. So where's
the pill?
Of course the government and the religious nuts have no desire to
see this come to fruition. There is no money to be made out of men
using bc. That is what will certainly screw things up! And I
wouldn't be at all
surprised
Post by AZ Astrea
that shortly after the pill becomes available, and the birth rate
plummets,
Post by AZ Astrea
that they'll find a way to outlaw it. It all comes down to money.
It always has.
There are some related societal issues that could be changed by
wide-spread use of a male bc pill that alters men's hormones. Recent
research in the late 90's showed testosterone is a calming hormone.
When men have excess testosterone their bodies they naturally convert
the excess to estrogen and that is what makes men with high
testosterone counts get edgy. On the other side, women are calmer
after sex because their bodies absorb the high testosterone levels in
male ejaculate to counter the high estrogen levels in their bodies.
A male bc pill that alters the testosterone balance could cause men
and women to become more violent because they lack the benefits of
testosterone to keep them calm.
So, IOW, men would become psychotic and irrational, too.

Yes, I'm just kidding. It was too easy to pass up. :-p
--
I went to a cafe that advertised breakfast anytime, so I ordered French
Toast during the Rennaisance.
~Steven Wright
Tiffany
2004-07-30 17:41:38 UTC
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Post by The Dave©
Post by AZ Astrea
Post by AZ Astrea
This is, of course, good news. But look at how far away it is from
becoming
Post by AZ Astrea
a reality for the general population. There was an article from
Australia,
Post by AZ Astrea
I think, last year that said the same things. They keep saying that
they're
Post by AZ Astrea
getting closer and closer and saying it's only a couple years from
being a reality but heck that article was from 2002. So where's
the pill?
Of course the government and the religious nuts have no desire to
see this come to fruition. There is no money to be made out of men
using bc. That is what will certainly screw things up! And I
wouldn't be at all
surprised
Post by AZ Astrea
that shortly after the pill becomes available, and the birth rate
plummets,
Post by AZ Astrea
that they'll find a way to outlaw it. It all comes down to money.
It always has.
There are some related societal issues that could be changed by
wide-spread use of a male bc pill that alters men's hormones. Recent
research in the late 90's showed testosterone is a calming hormone.
When men have excess testosterone their bodies they naturally convert
the excess to estrogen and that is what makes men with high
testosterone counts get edgy. On the other side, women are calmer
after sex because their bodies absorb the high testosterone levels in
male ejaculate to counter the high estrogen levels in their bodies.
A male bc pill that alters the testosterone balance could cause men
and women to become more violent because they lack the benefits of
testosterone to keep them calm.
So, IOW, men would become psychotic and irrational, too.
Yes, I'm just kidding. It was too easy to pass up. :-p
--
Yeah, I knew someone was going to go there. :)

T
Tiffany
2004-07-30 17:41:00 UTC
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Post by AZ Astrea
Post by AZ Astrea
This is, of course, good news. But look at how far away it is from
becoming
Post by AZ Astrea
a reality for the general population. There was an article from
Australia,
Post by AZ Astrea
I think, last year that said the same things. They keep saying that
they're
Post by AZ Astrea
getting closer and closer and saying it's only a couple years from being a
reality but heck that article was from 2002. So where's the pill?
Of course the government and the religious nuts have no desire to see this
come to fruition. There is no money to be made out of men using bc.
That
Post by AZ Astrea
Post by AZ Astrea
is what will certainly screw things up! And I wouldn't be at all
surprised
Post by AZ Astrea
that shortly after the pill becomes available, and the birth rate
plummets,
Post by AZ Astrea
that they'll find a way to outlaw it. It all comes down to money. It
always has.
There are some related societal issues that could be changed by wide-spread
use of a male bc pill that alters men's hormones. Recent research in the
late 90's showed testosterone is a calming hormone.
When men have excess testosterone their bodies they naturally convert the
excess to estrogen and that is what makes men with high testosterone counts
get edgy. On the other side, women are calmer after sex because their
bodies absorb the high testosterone levels in male ejaculate to counter the
high estrogen levels in their bodies.
A male bc pill that alters the testosterone balance could cause men and
women to become more violent because they lack the benefits of
testosterone
Post by AZ Astrea
to keep them calm.
Lovely, that is all we need is more violent men and women. If sex isn't
going to calm and make you happy, why bother? lol

T
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